Full Frame 4k Streaming

[JohnBradbury]

I’m looking for a camera that can record 4k 60fps for extended periods of time (4-5hrs) streaming. I’m very concerned about overheating.

I have a budget of about £7000.

Looking for recommendations.

 

[realspeed]

Look no further than the Panasonic range of camcorders for example the panasonic HC-X1500 or the HC-X 2000 . No overheating issues as they have built in fans. Also able to stream without extra equipment,and long battery life
I just bought the Hc -X 1500 for less than £1000 I would suggest either would more than meet your requirements. forget about going FF and paying a small fortune.
If you must go FF then take a look at the Panasonic Lumix S9ii

 

[ah5168]

You could use the new Blackmagic PYXIS 6K which is about £2700 for the body and a Blackmagic Web Presenter 4K for about £600.

The camera natively shoots 6K in full frame but the Web Presenter will convert it to 4K.

Andrew HATFIELD | Architectural and Interior Photographer

 

[Adam-G]

Look no further than the Panasonic range of camcorders for example the panasonic HC-X1500 or the HC-X 2000 . No overheating issues as they have built in fans. Also able to stream without extra equipment,and long battery life
I just bought the Hc -X 1500 for less than £1000 I would suggest either would more than meet your requirements. forget about going FF and paying a small fortune.
If you must go FF then take a look at the Panasonic Lumix S9ii

I'm guessing the OP has asked for full frame options for a reason, likely aesthetic or low light performance. Don't really see the point in recommending camcorders that have sensor barely bigger than a mobile phone sensor if the OP is looking for the full frame subject separation look or top notch low light performance.

With regard to the Lumix S series of full frame cameras, there's no such thing as a Lumix S9ii. If you're thinking of the Lumix S9 then it's a poor recommendation for the OP's use case as it has only recently had limiting record limits removed via firmware and still overheats after 45-50 minutes as it is designed as a "creator" camera for short form, instantly shareable content.

The S5II and S5IIX have active cooling and as such, they have no record limits so they might be a better recommendation. The S5IIX is far more capable with streaming also, so that would be my suggestion from that range with one big caveat - 60fps modes are cropped which is definitely worth noting.

 

[realspeed]

Adam sorry my mistake your correct no S9ii.

 

[the_accidental]

If light is an issue there are even camcorders with a 1" senso,r so not an excuse for not getting one.

That's 7.5x smaller than a full frame sensor. Quite a difference.

I'd suspect in this use case shallow DoF etc will be important too.

 

[Adam-G]

Adam sorry my mistake your correct no S9ii.

What I dont undestand is why so many are anti camcorders. To me they are part of having a decent camera kit . Same with M43 cameras, so many have a blinkered view of something they have never owned or even tried out.
Having owned FF Nikon cameras for more years than I can remember, now touching on 80 years old, heavy FF cameras and lenses are not the ideal.

If light is an issue there are even camcorders with a 1" senso,r so not an excuse for not getting one.

Ok maybe its just me but having a camcorder that also one can get/extract a stills photo from makes more sense than lugging around a heavy camera and umpteen lenses. Just consider taking a close up video with a camera then a distance shot. Not only ,unless on a tripod, camera shake but having to changing lenses causing a break in the video .

Dion't get me wrong I am definately not ant FF cameras but personal circumstances means looking at alternatives and lighter photgraphic equipment.
There generally seems to be a bias against somthing that can produce just as good a quality photo which I just don't understand

It fits your needs and desires and that's great but for many it's not prejudice or ignorance, it's simply use case.

A camcorder would never fit my shooting needs. I'm not saying that's the same for the OP but he did specify he wanted a full frame set up so I'd assume they'd have their reasons for specifying this.

A 1 inch sensor is still a 3x crop factor more or less than a standard full frame sensor so they're really not even in the same ballpark.

Your camcorder is 1.2kg. I can shoot my S5ii with any of the light Lumix S primes and come in under that weight with all the advantages of a large sensor and 10 bit log video and I can shoot 24MP raw photographs at high burst rates at the flick of a switch which no quick and dirty screengrab in the world is going to be able to match. I don't think there's a camcorder in the world that would tempt me to switch from a true hybrid camera.

But that is me and what works for you, works for you. The OP may be blinded by full frame hype of course and there are some excellent crop sensor and M43 options out there but I think it's important to try and offer suggestions based on the poster's needs and not our own.

If the poster said he was in his 80s and was looking to reduce the footprint of his kit for casual video work then your suggestion would be fantastic, unfortunately he's not asked for that or stated those limitations at all.