How do you deal with Teenage Idiots

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On Saturday I was down my local town taking some street life-type shots. A car drove past & some lads shouted out 'p***!", I just swung the camera round and started taking their phot as they drove past, they sped up & drove off.

Today I was in the same town centre getting some snow shots, just walked past a group of teenagers, as I walked away from them I got the obligatory snowball (which missed me & hit a parked car beside me).
My instinct was again, to turn round & take their photos because a) I think people should be held accountable for their actions & I wanted them to know what I thought about them and b) if they did anything further I;d have evidence of their identity.

Their initial reaction was to scatter & try to hide so I couldn't take their pic, then one lad thought he'd try it on & started coming over shouting about why was I taking their photo - like it's OK to assault passers by but not OK to take a photo, yeah right.

So I just took their photos while they mouthed off, let them know their future should they try to stop me or attempt to touch my camera and they then sloped off.

The second set of shots were unfortunately f9 meaning a slower shutter speed and taken with camera held in one hand not looking through the viewfinder (hence their lack of quality) But note the lad walking towards me where I switched from landscape to portrait mode, always thinking of composition ;)

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So how do you deal with idiots?
 
He looks like a valuable member of society, must have been on a lunch break from work..............:thinking:

Nasty Alsation sorts them out up here..............:naughty:
 
I wouldn't let it bother you if I was you. Don't tell me you didn't throw a few snowballs at strangers when you were a kid. Difference is that now kids know you can't deck them for it.
 
just knock that first spotty one out. the mouthiest of chavs are always the spotty ugly ones, most aggresive are always ginger. Tell me im making assumptions, but i dont care..

Keep taking pictures and tell them to try if they want to but that you tripod would just end up breaking his jaw. They dont understand common curtosy so throw a little abuse at them
 
Perfect, trackie bottoms, cold day :)

Trick is to get him to turn, whip his pants down, then quick as a flash, grab the crotch of the trackies and pull sharply up - face plant imminent, cold **** in the snow should impress his mates ;)
 
And be careful - heard that in our local town today, some youths were throwing snowballs at people and when a man told them not to, they punched him and broke his jaw :( and then of course the ambulance took ages to come because of the weather! its so unfair!
a couple of years ago, loads of ***** threw snowballs at my mum in her car and she crashed into another car because of it. when my neighbour came out of his house to ask them to stop it, they threatened to 'shoot him through the heart' in front if his kids. Awful :(
 
I would personally not point my camera at them. Taking their pic isn't likely to make the situation better and is quite likely to get a negative reaction out of them. I don't really see the point in making things worse.
 
I shout at them in the cinema when they won't shut up, they just look at the floor
 
Blody chavs, makes my blood boil looking at those pics.

Dom_Cabarete has a point, there is always a big, mouthy ringleader who luckily makes him or herself known to you as in the above pics.

This is the one you want to deal with. Sort him out and the rest will melt away. Sometimes the only way to defeat these wideboys is to be wider than they are. They expect you to back down in order to allow them to further your humiliation.

Shout in their faces like a flipping maniac, scream and roar until you have attracted enough attention to put the chav off or they think you are a mentalist. Either outcome is good.

Like that one SOCO as well. You could even flip out your wallet and show an ID card or something and give them the same spiel.
 
www.chavscum.co.uk used to be the place to post your pictures of lowlife chav moron. Blight on our landscapes these days, you leftwing handwringing liberal FOOLS are to blame!!!! Slapping them for a bit of discipline IS NOT cruel!!!!!
 
I would have put the camera away and had a snow ball fight
 
I would personally not point my camera at them. Taking their pic isn't likely to make the situation better and is quite likely to get a negative reaction out of them. I don't really see the point in making things worse.

Ignoring the little dears is the reason this country has gone down the tubes, too many people turning the other cheek and thus educating people like this that they can do whatever they like without consequences. They might get away with it with you, or at school or with their parents, but they sure as hell ain't getting away with it with me.

Badger,
it doesn't bother me really, if it did I wouldn't be standing there pointing 3 grands' worth of my hard earned money in their faces.
 
I have never had a problem with passers by when taking pics.

I do wonder how many, if any, females have a problem. When these threads are posted it does always seem to be male photographers. Do the general public (and chavs) have different opinions to photographers depending on their sex? Would be interested to find out.

While on my course we went out photos in a rather not nice area of town, a guy on our course (quite an elderly guy) wandered off and 2 chavs started asking (I say questioning but more menacing) what he was taking photos of and why. But they soon stopped and wandered off when myself and another lady walked over, when we walked abit further they started asking questions as though they were genuinely interested. It was odd.
 
I used to deliver food for the Co-op and you can imagine the trouble we used to have with the low life youth society waiting to nick the booze and fags off the trailer. I had a problem with some at a Southampton shop where the young 18 year old security guard took a punch to the tummy and when back to the shop and left me at the truck with the youths. One came to the back of the truck and tried to grab a crate of booze and when I put my boot on top the the case got quite agitated and decided to threaten me. I jumped down off the truck leant over to his spotted hooded face and said that I didn't mind making him a blood brother and passing on to him the big disease with the little name and the rest of his life would be very pleasant to which he throw his arms up in the air and walked off with a loud huff. :LOL: If I though my kids behaved like that I would kids their butts for sure and it's about time other parents did too. Opps forgot to mention I don't have the big disease with the little name.
 
I hate to say it, but with half a mortgage in my pack, I'd hesitate to give them a piece of my mind. Just too risky.

Best advice: shoot where no subhumans persist - or exist. Besides, if you're lucky, if Darwin has any relevance anymore, the ringleaders will either get sent to jail or wind up on the sidewalk - horizontally and by no fault of your own.
 
I'm afraid i would've walked towards this individual and asked him what his problem was ,there's FAR to much of,but if you do this or if you do that we're in the wrong. What gives the ned the write to confront me about my business .This country has no control over these types of people,as for punching and breaking someones JAW is absolutely despicable and moronic .... RRRRant over :D
 
just start talking in long complicated sentences explaining why you're taking their photograph, it's worse to them than a punch in the face
 
My advice would be to be careful! Avoid in the first instance, they don't have much to lose and their behaviour can reflect this. It would be very easy to be drawn into something where you become the problem and have your collar felt.

If you assault someone under the age of 18 [a minor] and are convicted you would become a 'schedule one' offender', not a pretty thing to carry for the rest of your life! In law its the same category but less serious as sex offences against minors. So my advice is avoid the confrontational situations in the first place or use a long lens from a car, if approached **** off rapidly.
I 'worked' with young offenders and for every crime they were nicked for they got away with dozens of others.

Dunc
 
I find the best way is just don't let them bother you. Chavs that are aggressive for no reason are usually doing it because they feel weak and insecure, in my experience, so just show them that they're not intimidating you and they'll give up.

And I think your thread should be titled, "How do you deal with idiots?" TBH, as we're not all bad :) I regularly hang out with a large group of kids in a town centre but NONE of us would randomly start on someone who walks past, we're not aggressive towards old people, and quite a nice bunch really :)

(and I can assure you we dislike morons like the one that had a go at you intensely)
 
honestly these guys react to fear so when they shout abuse after you question them they exect you to shut up but if a chav threatens me im more than happy to go skits and tell him ill stab him then throw him in a river.

subseasniper is right the only way is to go at the ringleader and the rest shut up, im only 4 years older than these 16 year old chavs and i can tell you from my old friends they try and go at the weak and will only back down if they think they might actually have to deal with someone retaliating
 
Right with me being 16, I know how to sort this ****...

You just say this. "Yo bruv. You think you're a badman init.. Tinking it's cool throwing next snowballs and mandems. Next time you come in my ends i'll shank you up blud"

Sorted!



OR

You just wait a week... he'll be in Feltham Young Offenders by then :)
 
Ewan,

I'm not suggesting all teenagers are like that at all, I have a few of my own who wouldn;t dream of acting like that - I have brought them up to be valuable members of society unlike the scum in my shot.
 
It's time for a return to good old vigilantism. Put the fear in scum like this.
 
Ewan,

I'm not suggesting all teenagers are like that at all, I have a few of my own who wouldn;t dream of acting like that - I have brought them up to be valuable members of society unlike the scum in my shot.

Jolly good (y)

To me it seems like a never-ending cycle. They're brought up by chavs, their friends are chavs, people aren't nice to them because they're chavs :shrug:

What's the answer? (and nobody say smack 'em, because that's not it ;))
 
With the proliferation of knife crime nowadays, wouldn't it be better to avoid things like this?
 
How bothered are you really?

Contact the police - technically it's assault and you can easily id them.

However, if your police are anything like ours, I'd give up.
 
You just say this. "Yo bruv. You think you're a badman init.. Tinking it's cool throwing next snowballs and mandems. Next time you come in my ends i'll shank you up blud"

PMSL :LOL:

Quality
 
It's time for a return to good old vigilantism. Put the fear in scum like this.

Thats where I saw the move I mentioned, he was running at the time though and his nose was messy, shame he couldn't get his hands out of his underpants - I was chasing his mate at the time who strung himself up on the barbed wire as he made his bid for freedom.

Both duly delivered to the open door of the Police van, obviously our local bobby saw him trip over :shrug: and we were thanked for our help ;)
 
Its all down to good old fashioned respect
Not "respec' " as the young'uns say for what appears to be no sensible reason,
BUT proper respect for your parents, teachers elders
politicians sorry thats taking it just a little too far
law enforcers etc



. I jumped down off the truck leant over to his spotted hooded face and said that I didn't mind making him a blood brother and passing on to him the big disease with the little name and the rest of his life would be very pleasant

:LOL::LOL::LOL:
Thats one to remember (y)
 
As a fiesty person myself, I know it's hard but I wouldn't rise to their bait. Unfortunately, life is way too cheap for these scum.

I find having a scary dog alongside me always helps. I know the dog will take care of me, he's done it before, he had one of these chav idiots pinned against a wall last year when he (chav) got too close. It was wonderful hearing a scummy chav scream and cry like a baby.

From Lisa, a respectable woman who also does voluntary work. LOL!

Lisa
 
avoiding things like this is exactly why we have the problems in the first place.

I appreciate it's a judgement call taking into account the circumstances & your own abilities and you do what you have to do, but then I don't think you can complain about the state of society when you don't do anything about it (I mean generally, not you specifically)

What's that African phrase, something along the lines of it takes a mother to have a baby but a village to bring it up?

Unfortunately, in the UK we have forgotten the bit about the village & leave it to everyone else, who are all busy leaving it to everyone else.
 
Wow, 37 replies in 90 minutes..... wouldn't it be great if I got the same response to my photos!

Well post something emotive photographic wise :D
A public hanging / flogging should get a few responses (y)
 
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