Iceland or Kumliens Gull?

They all look the same to me Vince ...... all gulls that is ........... but never seen one of those ......... so I know what it's not

Good shots and very interesting
 
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…just one click (DRL setting)…

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But I think that when the Iceland Gull is white Daniel, it is white and the feet are quite a light pink ... a kind of fleshy pink .. as in the OP image

The only thing that would put me off saying that this is an Iceland gull is it's bill, unless it is a juvenile ....... but they change every year for about 4 or 5 years ... but from what I can see, yellow eyes, white, pink feet it looks like an Iceland Gull or something that looks like an Iceland Gull .... but we need a "gull expert" to identify the year

Attractive Gull and a great "find" - never seen one myself or on here
 
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Identifying gulls like this is a bit of a specialist subject, especially when Kumlein's gull didn't actually exist a few years ago! It used to be a race of the Iceland Gull.

If you need to know, It might be better to go to a birders forum.

They're pretty smart photographs though!
 
BillN_33 said:
But I think that when the Iceland Gull is white
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You may be well right in this!

I have a better idea of photography than birds so my edit was
the DRL only. That means, as you know, it is the data in the jpg.

Considering the low sun suggesting morning or evening, the WB
is credible but I haven't seen the scene so I limit my argument to
proper DRL.
 
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hockeyboy150 said:
It is nowhere near as dark as the version you re-processed in reality.
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Vince, I don't want to sell you or convince of anything but…

• Like the pictures in the link you gracefully supplied, none of the
pictures ar DRL set and many have a wrong WB.

• I am giving you an opinion on a file where the RAW data (as for
those in the link) were not developed correctly. This opinion does
not consider any artistic intent but only the technical point of it.

• This may be a picture of an immature bird…?
BillN_33 said:
I can see your point about B & W levels, but have you also considered adjustments to contrast
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I hope you know that I would not play with sliders for nothing, Bill!
As I said, only DRL.

In any case, this is DRL applied to a jpg. No contrast, WB or what
not applied. Of course, you could do better with the RAW file.
 
hockeyboy150 said:
I'll use curves in photoshop
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It is a good strategy to stay as long as possible in the converter…
there is a curve adjustment in all converters… and this is not the
first tool I would pickup anyway.
 
I am not arguing Daniel ........ I am just considering the blanket adjustment that you refer to as DRL

from your edit what I see more than anything is a dark blue sea ......... this time of year around the UK coast it is seldom that colour, (I crossed the Chanel a couple of weeks ago and do so often) .. and as I indicated from the images I have seen of this type of gull, when they are white they are white which is one of their distinguishing features

Is a global DRL adjustment always applicable? ... that's what I am suggesting
 
BillN_33 said:
Is a global DRL adjustment always applicable?
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Yes, Bill.
DRL, WB etc… are always the way to go. After one has reached
the best recorded data from the RAW file, then (and I recommend
only then!) one may applied the artistic intent if any.

Again, my contribution here is based on the data recorded and
jpg published.
 
Kodiak Qc said:
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Yes, Bill.
DRL, WB etc… are always the way to go. After one has reached
the best recorded data from the RAW file, then (and I recommend
only then!) one may applied the artistic intent if any.

Again, my contribution here is based on the data recorded and
jpg published.
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but the sea is not that colour???
 
BillN_33 said:
but the sea is not that colour???
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This, I don't know… I haven't seen the scene!
The sea may not be of that colour but it reflects the incidence
of the light of a blue sKy!

I am only suggesting that the data is in the file. I would need to
see and evaluate the RAW file.
 
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hockeyboy150 said:
I only put the photos up to see whether anyone could identify the bird. You may be pleased to know that it has been possibly almost probably been nearly identified as a likely BIRD from my photos. So they can't be that bad.
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I do not think that anyone has said that your images are anything but good Vince

I certainly like them and as I said a first for me on here and I have never seen one, so a good spot

just a discussion, all good stuff, I wouldn't get too sensitive
 
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stick your favourite image on the Gull thread Vince - yours is an unusual spot
 
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