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Hi All,

I hesitated in posting this, not quite sure if appropriate, or if I would get any responses.

I have seen my mental health starting to take its toll on me over the last 6 months, more so than usual.

I seem to be in a never ending spiral, I work 40-50 hours a week and then when I have free time I make plans to get out with my gear and then my head kicks in and I end up staying in.

I am alone, without transport (other than public) and struggle to free my headspace enough for me to grab my cameras and just get out…

I have tried to join a camera club but there is nothing in Newmarket or close by that I can get too.

I was wondering if anyone had any ideas or suggestions.

If anyone reads this then thank you for taking the time too.

Cheers

Andy.
 
Hi Andy,

It's good of you to tackle things and share - that's a great first step.

I'll do some thinking on this and reply properly tomorrow, but just wanted to post so you know it's been read, and that me, among others I'm sure, will come up with some suggestions.

Keep positive buddy. Life has so many ups and down, I've been through most of them. Positivity as much as I'm sure you're sick of folks saying it, is key in my opinion,

I'll drop back here tomorrow!
 
I'm an hour and a half away, so that doesn't work too well for me. Perhaps setting some smaller and more achievable targets?

I wish you all the very best of luck!
 
Hi Andy

I hear you and I can feel how difficult this is, going through a similar problem.

I started small. Photos around the house. I did an online macro course which really helped me that I could use my camera and equipment around the house, especially during the winter months which I find are difficult. For me, it was more about a change in routine and bringing in my creative side (my job involves lots of analytical stuff) to the time when I wasn’t working. That said, getting outside, anywhere, whatever the weather changed me more than anything. I had this thing about not taking a camera with me for some reason but I started using my phone instead and then thinking how that picture could be changed with a good camera. So, I started with a camera and one lens. One picture a day. Progress not perfection!

Wishing you all the very best of luck.

Philip
 
Heads are difficult things to manage. Let me sleep on thiis and then come back too.
 
Some good suggestions above.
Ideally you should probably be finding someone to help work with you on the triggers and causes of your malaise, but (taking a cue from Philip above), setting small achievable targets for yourself, whether photographic or otherwise, is important, so you can get some sense of achievement and confidence.
I would start by asking yourself why you are working so many hours, and whether that is because you have to, or because you think you have to. Maybe that needs attention?
A sense of structure away from work is probably needed: perhaps diarising an hour a week for photography, or for something else that gives a sense of reward?
 
I was in the same situation, my mental health took a nose dive during the pandemic and I pretty much shut down and stopped leaving the house.

It's a hard one to crack, but all I can say is it made such a difference to me once I forced myself to grab a camera and take a walk.

Try and think of a nearby building, a place, or scene, or event etc, something you can get to easily and use as a mini project. When you get the free time, GO! Even if you start to lose enthusiasm again, remind yourself " This isn't doing me any good and I will regret it if I don't go"

It's not easy, but remind yourself that you work hard and you jolly well deserve a little photography trip. I hope you find a pal to help get you going, but if not, I can only speak from my own experience, once you push yourself to start doing it, you will be in a much better place.

I wish you all the best.
 
Hi All,

I hesitated in posting this, not quite sure if appropriate, or if I would get any responses.

I have seen my mental health starting to take its toll on me over the last 6 months, more so than usual.

I seem to be in a never ending spiral, I work 40-50 hours a week and then when I have free time I make plans to get out with my gear and then my head kicks in and I end up staying in.

I am alone, without transport (other than public) and struggle to free my headspace enough for me to grab my cameras and just get out…

I have tried to join a camera club but there is nothing in Newmarket or close by that I can get too.

I was wondering if anyone had any ideas or suggestions.

If anyone reads this then thank you for taking the time too.

Cheers

Andy.
I have a few quick suggestions. As everyone's circumstances will be different, my suggestions may not be useful, but hopefully some of it might be helpful.

1. At least initially, do not think too much about why you are photographing things. Gary Winogrand famously said that he photographed things just to see what they looked like as photographs.

2. Equally famously, Cartier Bresson said he needed to use his camera every day, just to keep his eye in. From what I understand few these "keeping his eye in" pictures ever became famous. But I know from personal experience, if I go for a spell of not taking pictures, when I finally pick up my camera again, it takes me ages to get back into "seeing" that I want to photograph.

Both of the above suggest that making photographs doesn't need to be something that requires a lot of thought or organising, it's something you "just do". The photographs you make don't need to be "special" they just need to capture something that has triggered some sort of visual/emotional reaction. As time goes by, and you photograph things regularly, it becomes easier to start thinking about what you might want from you photographs. But simply observing the world and recording things that grab your interest is a good start

Don't feel you need to take pictures for others. The process of making pictures of subjects you find visually interesting can be rewarding and satisfying even if they aren't shared with others. Having said that, sharing pictures with others also has its value

3. Make it easier to get out by, at least for now, by picking one camera and one lens, and use nothing else for at least a month (taking pictures everyday). From you kit list I would go with the a6700 and the 23mm. Don't be tempted by any of the other option. Don't worry about "missing" photographs. When you know you are limited to the one lens, you quickly begin only seeing pictures that suit the lens you are using.

4. Leave this camera and lens "to hand" when you are in the house. Look for shadows coming though your windows, or reflections from cutlery on the kitchen bench, or the patterns from boiling pasta on you cooker etc etc.

5. Take this camera and lens to work with you. Grab a few pictures at lunch time or when walking back home from the bus stop.

6. Don't think too hard about going to places "good" for photographs. Photographs are "everywhere". Just walking around where you live may well through up interesting photographic opportunities. Looking at places and events within a bus ride that just "interest" you could well give you interesting and unexpected photo opportunities. What interests do you have other than photography? Can you combine following these interests with making photographs. Coming up with a photography projects based on a non-photographic interest is a good way to generate photographs, as can projects based on simple photographic themes.

I have an on-going project called "Tackin the weight" which is photographs of park and garden benches. In spite of these being outdoors, it stems from a common phrase from my childhood (in Scotland) where visitors were often greeted with "Tak the weight aff your feet and I'll mak us a wee cup of tea". This was an instruction to sit down, but I have no idea why it was a "wee" (small) cup of tea, However, it was a commonly used term. For example, the shops often offered you a "wee bag" to put your purchases in: regardless of the size of bag needed. BTW the attraction of benches is that they often have interesting shapes and tonal contrasts with their backgrounds that make really nice black and white prints.

7. Study the photographs of others. A lot of famous photographs by famous photographers are often extraordinary photographs of rather ordinary things. This isn't to say you need to restrict your photographs to "ordinary" things, but rather to emphasise that you don't "need" extraordinary subjects to make interesting photographs.

8. Work on your processing. It extends the experience of "making" the photograph, and helps you learn how you might have made things better at the taking stage. Coming from the film days, I see taking and processing as indivisibly linked, and the time I spend processing a photographs deepens my relationship with it, an 2024-12-08he enjoyment I get from it.

9. Don't expect to make a lot of good photographs, just enjoy the process of making the ones you do make. The more you make the better they will become, and the more you make the quicker things will fall into place. But be willing to give it time.

10. There is a lot of material around now about photography and wellness that might be useful. It has to be said, that what this movement describe as a "new" approach to photography is what I thought photography had always been about, but it none the less it has some interesting things to say.

As a starter:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5wyxTXzzEo&t=23s


and a bit of background here (but there is a fair bit about, and I could probably find some other links if that would be useful)

 
I’m too far away to help physically.

But last year someone close to me had some mental health issues and I joined him at Andy’s Man Club on a Monday evening for a while.

It’s free, and simply an opportunity to meet up with a bunch of blokes to just chat.

There wasn’t a single occasion that a meeting didn’t make me feel better about the world. They can and will refer to professional help if they feel it’s required, but generally it’s just a mutual support network.
 
I'm too far away in the N.E. of England but just wanted to send you positive vibes :D

I've struggled with stress and depression for years but my photography does help. I agree with the idea of taking a camera with you as often as possible and I'd add walking as often as possible as I find being outside does help and hopefully your photography could be a part of that, if you like photographing the sort of things you'd see on a walk.

Other than that, you have this place and you'll always get some positive comments and feedback here and I wonder if contacting a few photography and even forum buddies directly and swapping pictures and talking about them would help? A sort of small scale remote distance camera club. Just a thought :D
 
I'm too far away in the N.E. of England but just wanted to send you positive vibes :D

I've struggled with stress and depression for years but my photography does help. I agree with the idea of taking a camera with you as often as possible and I'd add walking as often as possible as I find being outside does help and hopefully your photography could be a part of that, if you like photographing the sort of things you'd see on a walk.

Other than that, you have this place and you'll always get some positive comments and feedback here and I wonder if contacting a few photography and even forum buddies directly and swapping pictures and talking about them would help? A sort of small scale remote distance camera club. Just a thought :D
I'm near Southend, so I'm a bit too far away most of the time, although I have done some days up around Ipswich, Cambridge etc. - I'd be more than happy to meet up next time I'm up that way if you're free, @Gandalf.

I really like @woof woof's idea of a photo swap club by email, too - let me know if you do something like this, I'd love to be involved :)
 
In a way, that's exactly what this forum is about, although there is a slightly more personal element with a small, closed group sharing pictures.
 
I’m too far away to help physically.

But last year someone close to me had some mental health issues and I joined him at Andy’s Man Club on a Monday evening for a while.

It’s free, and simply an opportunity to meet up with a bunch of blokes to just chat.

There wasn’t a single occasion that a meeting didn’t make me feel better about the world. They can and will refer to professional help if they feel it’s required, but generally it’s just a mutual support network.
Andy’s Man Club have done a couple of talks at my company on this subject - really good, he’s been through some very tough times himself so definitely recommended.

To the OP, well done for addressing the problem head on, that’s the most difficult part. If you need any advice on places that can help, just shout here!
 
This resonates a lot and what works for one person won't necessarily work for another. @myotis has some great advice there

Rather than making photography an event - in which you have to make time for, plan and prepare. Try to make it a very small daily habit and pick a simple project (or several) that's achievable around the house, on your daily walk or commute - collect pictures of trees, doorways, rubbish, clouds etc.. - I also like the idea of photosketcing, where you document your day and play around with visual language

Edited to add, I'm in Swindon - so too far away for a meet up
 
Hi Andy, @Gandalf, congratulations on this post. I hope the great tips you've received are helpful. I'm based in another country, so I can't participate in anything in person. Wishing you all the best, maybe keep us posted how it works out?
Tim
 
Hi Andy @Gandalf

I read your post and admire your fortitude in being open about the 'place' you find yourself in. As mentioned by others, that is an important first step in finding a solution that will fit you.

Unfortunately, I am too far away in Surrey to go on photo walks with you.

Hopefully you will find the above replies (ideas & suggestions) of value to aid your path.

One thing that I might suggest, is not to focus (no pun intended) on your photography hobby as that too is perhaps just another challenge too far after your long working week.

So, if not photography (for now), what about volunteering a few hours of your free time? You are likely to meet like minded folks in an environment outside of your day job.....and is possibly the most important aspect i.e. nothing to do with the day job.

Therefore looking at Newmarket, one place, if you like horses, is this one

Plus, thinking of your photography.... possibly take your camera in sometimes to photograph the horses???

Or once settled in with doing the above, suggest to the volunteering co-ordinator that you do a photo project about the volunteers??? NB this just an out of the box suggestion :)

All the best

Laurence
 
Good of you to recognize this and have the courage to post about this. I think several suggestions made by previous posters are potential starting points. What I will add is partially covered by the previous posters, but I'll just put in my 2cts .

The main part of my photography is sports (rugby mostly) which I started doing when I got injured and stopped playing myself. To challenge and develop myself and for some other distraction I every now and then go out into nature and just take photos of birds that I come across. It is a mix of getting fresh air, trying new things and developing photo skills with different subjects and just relax without thinking about work.

I also have some very busy periods at work every now and then with over 50 working hours. I then often intend to plan some relaxation and do some photography. But then I start discussing in my head what to do (which area, what time,...) and it often results in not going out due to wasting too much time deciding on what to do. I partially blame this on the mental load during the week.
However if there are rugby matches in the neighborhood I have a clear target for photography and doubt less and just pick the camera and go out.

So rather then finding a photoclub or buddy to go out with (which off course is good and valid option as well), you might try to find some social subjects nearby that can motivate you to go out. Can be local sports, but also things like the horse volunteering mentioned earlier in this thread. When you socialize around your photography subjects the step of getting out and doing photography may become more easy.
 
I'm too far away to be much real help.

I dont know if yourthe sort of bloke who will talk to strangers, but I'm thinking there must be other photographers in your area. I'd suggest keeping your eyes open at events at get chatting to any you spot. I'm also guessing theres a facebook photography group somewhere localish to you (I dont do antisocial media) but I have a friend who has met up with a few togs that way.

Your local camera shop might also be a good starting place, ask the staff if theres any local groups ect.

I'm always supprised how many photos I can find locally, most days I take a few mile walk locally, and I can usually find something. If I get stuck for ideas I'll challenge myself to say a single focal lenght, ot a shutter speed, or close up filter or whatever.
This time of year theres Christmas light, late night shooping, parties, lots to shoot if you can get to a town centre.
 
Hi All,

I hesitated in posting this, not quite sure if appropriate, or if I would get any responses.

I have seen my mental health starting to take its toll on me over the last 6 months, more so than usual.

I seem to be in a never ending spiral, I work 40-50 hours a week and then when I have free time I make plans to get out with my gear and then my head kicks in and I end up staying in.

I am alone, without transport (other than public) and struggle to free my headspace enough for me to grab my cameras and just get out…

I have tried to join a camera club but there is nothing in Newmarket or close by that I can get too.

I was wondering if anyone had any ideas or suggestions.

If anyone reads this then thank you for taking the time too.

Cheers

Andy.
Hi Andy

I am not too far away - other side of Cambridge, so 25 mins or so away. I have done a lot less photography myself and sometimes lack motivation to get out and do something. Used to live in Newmarket so PM me if you want to chat and sort out a meet.
 
Andy @Gandalf,

Have a look at DibsPhotography on Facebook.

He's Norfolk based and although runs workshops he may know of a local group etc. in the area.

He also seems a really nice guy.

I wish you all the best going forwards.

Terry.
 
well Andy the good news is you have done the hardest bit...you have taken the courage to take the first step ,if you can do that , you can do anything, theres been lots of great ideas above and im sure more will follow, especially nice the gestures from those near to you to physically get to help you , well done all
 
I'd just like to start by saying, as others have, making the post you have done is the hardest bit done.

I too struggle a bit and have found just going for a walk helps me with or without the camera. Just being outside in the fresh air regardless of the weather helps clear my head a bit, even if I don't take any pictures I've had a good walk and got out the house. An achievement from staying in on the sofa.

I'd like to suggest if your on Facebook to look up Campkins cameras. They do regular photography meet ups in Cambridge, be it photo walks or a meet up for chats about photography.

Also what are your interests photography wise? Might help people suggest some ideas. There's definitely been some great suggestions by everyone whose replied so far.
 
As mentioned above, maybe try some volunteer work?

It's not easy to find the right fit, but helping someone to shoulder a load is a beautiful thing to do.
 
In a similar way, I lost my wife just over a year ago and it would have been easy to withdraw into the house. However joining a bereavement group has opened up many social opportunities and has no doubt helped come to terms with my now single situation. If I can quote from Monty Python, 'Always look on the bright side of life' there may be other groups apart from photography, Men's Shed for example.
 
In a similar way, I lost my wife just over a year ago and it would have been easy to withdraw into the house. However joining a bereavement group has opened up many social opportunities and has no doubt helped come to terms with my now single situation. If I can quote from Monty Python, 'Always look on the bright side of life' there may be other groups apart from photography, Men's Shed for example.
I am not sure anything about this situation is easy.
 
I’m just coming back to this thread. It’s been a tough month for me. From my perspective that initial push you need, to get out is the hardest. I can relate to how you feel, but no matter how tempting it is to stay inside - just push yourself even to go for a walk. If you’ve got time after work, or on the weekends just.. do it. I note you don’t drive, so could you perhaps get to a train station? No destination in mine, but just get a 10 ticket and see where you end up, and get off at a town that piques your interest? It’s hard to plan when you don’t feel like it - if you havw a small camera, you could take that? First, I think you have to start living, and getting out / and I’d say a camera could follow that. Within a week of being back in the UK, I’ve lost my father. It’s tough - but you have to keeping going. I’m keeping normality to my life, still working, with a bit of a renewed vigor. Still going to the pool every day. Still going “out” for a good few walks downtowns after work and on the weekend for sure. Please do it. I’m probably too far from you - but for reference I’m in the North West of the UK.
 
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