Shutter Speed for Motorcycle Racing?

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Thinking about heading off to Darley Moor racetrack on Monday, armed with a 7D and a 70-200 f2.8, hoping to capture sharp images with a little motion blur on the wheels - not much to ask for an amateur!

I'm thinking that 1/250th would be about right, providing I can get my panning technique sorted, faster if not - is that a reasonable shutter speed? Can anybody comment or help with any suggestions?

Thanks,

Chris
 
With bikes it doesn't really matter so much, more of the motion is portrayed in their stance or attitude to a corner rather than the visible motion.

Nevertheless, i would usually aim for about 1/125 -1/160 for a pan. That will give lots of motion, but keep the sharpness through most of the bike if it is turning.

Start high and work your way down, Panning down to 1/125 isn't that difficult with a little practice.
 
dunganick said:
With bikes it doesn't really matter so much, more of the motion is portrayed in their stance or attitude to a corner rather than the visible motion.

Nevertheless, i would usually aim for about 1/125 -1/160 for a pan. That will give lots of motion, but keep the sharpness through most of the bike if it is turning.

Start high and work your way down, Panning down to 1/125 isn't that difficult with a little practice.

Thanks Dunganick, If the rain keeps off, I'll make my way to Darley Moor and work with your suggestions on Monday.

Chris
 
Personally It depends what subject you are photographing, what speed the subject is travelling at, what lens your are using and getting the right shutter speed / aperture to match to create the right motion blur rather than VR OS IS etc. Correct camera settings and a smooth pan get you the shots.

Shutter speeds of 1/30 1/60 or even 1/125 aren't easy to get right. So apply the 1 over focal length rule explained below to get an idea of somewhere better to start.

A common rule of thumb for estimating how fast the exposure needs to be for a given focal length is the one over focal length rule. This states that for a 35 mm camera, the exposure time needs to be at least as fast as one over the focal length in seconds. In other words, when using a 200 mm focal length on a 35 mm camera, the exposure time needs to be at least 1/200 seconds-- otherwise blurring may be hard to avoid. Keep in mind that this rule is just for rough guidance; some may be able to hand hold a shot for much longer or shorter times than this rule estimates. So for users of digital cameras with cropped sensors, one needs to convert into a 35 mm equivalent focal length, eg 200*1.6 (crop) = 1/320 sec

That will help with setting up the right shutter settings to start with, you can get more adventurous later.

Now, Panning is a technique which requires mastering over time, its not something that you can instantly do and repeat. It require training you body to become familiar with the motion, thus it become almost automatic. What this will achieve is a smooth pan, something that is not easy to master.

Pick up the subject early, focus and pan with the subject, take them image when subject fills 2/3 of the frame, continue the pan after the shot, try and avoid stopping the pan or jerking at the edge will also aid in good results.

You are able to capture pans at slower shutter speeds, but to get everything right in the shot takes practice and a very smooth pan movement, taken at 1/100sec, but generally, I'm taking shots at 1/200 or 1/320 sec because of the speed of the bikes and slightly slower for cars....

1/100 sec
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1/320 sec
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or even 1/640 sec, but still generate motion blur
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300mm f2.8 + 2x TC @ 1/800 sec
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Feet position is important to give you a base from which to pan you body, as describe above, you then need to pick the action up early, panning with the on coming bike/car, then when it fills 2/3 screen start to take your 2 -3 images, recompose and take the next shots, remembering to continue the motion after taking the shots, that's also very important.......

Fire single shots not a burst, bursts are a waste of time for a plain old panning shot. Yes you might miss the moment when Elvis and ET climb out the sun roof and roof surf around the track to the sound of the Beach Boys, but... Concentrate on getting your timing right.

Don't shoot into the sun. That amazing corner you (and everyone else with a camera) has discovered where the cars/bikes come inches away from your face is worthless if you are shooting into the sun. Try to work out if/when the sun will have moved off and come back then.

If it is a bright sunny day, consider using a 1 or 2 stop ND filter to get the shutter speed down. Not a problem normally at 1/250th, but as you slow it down you will have problems.

Slow(ish) pans don't work if the vehicle is not on smooth ground. Its generally rubbish for non-tarmac racing as the bumps blur the subject.

Practice. Lots. Post your results up in the motorsport section on here and let everyone else give you some help - the motorsport section is pretty friendly!

Peter
 
Thinking about heading off to Darley Moor racetrack on Monday, armed with a 7D and a 70-200 f2.8, hoping to capture sharp images with a little motion blur on the wheels - not much to ask for an amateur!

I'm thinking that 1/250th would be about right, providing I can get my panning technique sorted, faster if not - is that a reasonable shutter speed? Can anybody comment or help with any suggestions?

Thanks,

Chris

You should be fine for panning around that setting but it really depends on the speeds of the bikes, as well as how much practice you have had.

Try a few and see how you go, slower bikes you will probably get away with 1/125th or less

Try much higher for approaching or going away shots.
 
Thanks for your helpful posts Peter, Mike & Nick, I have some good pointers to set me off in the right direction.

Peter, that's a very comprehensive reply, thank you for taking the time to write and post. Your pictures are inspiring, good work.

Sadly, I didn't get to Darley Moor today, it was raining early this morning and it didn't stop until around 5pm, a typical bank holiday! I didn't think there would be any chance of getting decent images on such a dark and wet day, a disappointment for the riders and organisers too.

Thanks Guys, I'm looking forward to putting the advice into practice.

Chris
 
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