Three more new Nikon cameras

mikew said:
I know they will not be of interest to most on here but with my desire to cut the weight down of my gear the 24-500 interests me.

http://nikonrumors.com/2016/02/19/n...-cameras-line-with-1-sensor.aspx/#more-102204
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Hmmm, I hope those specs are wrong, or there's something special about these cameras. Take the 24-85mm for example. On this spec it's clearly aimed at the RX100 and G7x yet it's noticeably bigger and heavier than both so getting outside of the truly pocketable range. It's getting close to the newly announced TZ100 which has both a viewfinder and 25-250mm range, albeit with a slower lens. If these dimensions are correct I hope for Nikon's sake it's got a viewfinder, or at least priced better than the RX100/G7x.
 
snerkler said:
Hmmm, I hope those specs are wrong, or there's something special about these cameras. Take the 24-85mm for example. On this spec it's clearly aimed at the RX100 and G7x yet it's noticeably bigger and heavier than both so getting outside of the truly pocketable range. It's getting close to the newly announced TZ100 which has both a viewfinder and 25-250mm range, albeit with a slower lens. If these dimensions are correct I hope for Nikon's sake it's got a viewfinder, or at least priced better than the RX100/G7x.
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Not really looked at the others its just the 24-500 that i looked at.
 
mikew said:
Not really looked at the others its just the 24-500 that i looked at.
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Yeah, the DL 24-500 intrigues me too ;)...I wonder if it will equal/better the Panasonic FZ1000???

It would seem, that most people are keen on the DL 18-50 version.

No doubt these new Nikon cameras will be priced on the "high" side?!...much like, when the V1/J1 "hit the streets".

Will a V4 ever appear?...it might do!...It took a decade for the D500 to materialize, so who knows!
 
Back to the drawing board,the quoted 500mm is a 185mm with a 2.7 factor applied,nice cameras though.

 
Nikon DL18-50
The first camera is perhaps the most interesting, as it has the widest lens of any enthusiast compact on the market. That lens has an equivalent focal length of 18-50mm and a fast maximum aperture range of F1.8-2.8. The lens has a 3-stop ND filter and is Nikon's first compact to have a Nano Crystal Coating, which reduces flare and ghosting. The lens has seven aperture blades and has a top shutter speed of 1/1600 sec (an electronic shutter, found on all three models, maxes out at 1/16000 sec). There is also built-in perspective correction, which is especially useful when shooting architecture.

The camera has full manual exposure control, Raw support, tilting touch OLED display and aforementioned 4K/30p support. The DL18-50 also supports an optional tilting OLED electronic viewfinder with 2.36M dots. The 18-50 is the only one of thecamera cameras to lack a built-in flash, though like its siblings it does have a hot shoe.

Nikon DL24-85
The DL24-85 is very similar to its wider sibling, both inside and out. The main difference is its lens, which is a 24-85mm equiv. F1.8-2.8 model, though it lacks an ND filter and the Nano Crystal Coating. Its standout feature is the ability to take life-size, 1:1 macro photos, with a minimum focus distance of 3cm. Macro shooters can also take advantage of focus peaking and bracketing as well as manual priority AF.

Nikon DL24-500
For those seeking a long zoom model, there's the DL24-500. As its name implies, it has a 24-500mm equiv. lens, with a max aperture range of F2.8-5.6. Unlike the other two models, the 24-500 has a fully articulating display and a built-in OLED viewfinder. It's also the only of the DL models with a mic input jack, with support for Nikon's ME-1shotgun mic.
 
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The DL 18-50 would be seriously great for portable very light weight landscaping, in terms of focal length at least.
 
Prices up at Wex

DL18-50 : £679
DL24-85: £549
DL24-500 : £749

An extra £120 if you want either of the top two with the EVF. We need independent reviews, but I could see the 24-500 version being one of the better options for people after a camera for safari who don't want a DSLR (but a budget DSLR and 150-600 isn't all that much more to spend...)
 
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Those prices look good,nearly too good to be true :)
 
mikew said:
Those prices look good,nearly too good to be true :)
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Really, am I missing something? The PD/CDAF is nice but the 24-85 is a similar price to the RX100-III but without a viewfinder, and verging on not being pocketable.

Mind you it's the same price as the G7x -II but I said the same about the price of that, although the Canon does at least have more reach. I just think they're high priced compared to the Sony (first time I've ever said that ;))
 
snerkler said:
Really, am I missing something? The PD/CDAF is nice but the 24-85 is a similar price to the RX100-III but without a viewfinder, and verging on not being pocketable.

Mind you it's the same price as the G7x -II but I said the same about the price of that, although the Canon does at least have more reach. I just think they're high priced compared to the Sony (first time I've ever said that ;))
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I think you are. The Rx100iii is 24-70 and has been out for how long? May 2014 ish @ £700. Its had time for the price to drop.

I dont think a lot of people will have an issue with it being a bit bigger or heavier if it has the quality to go with it.
 
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twist said:
I think you are. The Rx100iii is 24-70 and has been out for how long? May 2014 ish @ £700. Its had time for the price to drop. Its also not 1:1 macro, hasnt got PDAF and has Sony processing and build.

I dont think a lot of people will have an issue with it being a bit bigger or heavier if it has the quality to go with it.
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Maybe. As you know I struggle to get my head around current prices of stuff ;) As you know, I thought the release price of the RX100 M3 was insane, and it's more reasonable now (although still pricey ;)). So whilst I know things rop after launch I expect things to be priced according to the current market, and the current market is the RX100. Mind you I guess they'll say it's £200 cheaper than the M4 ;)

I think I just need to reset my pricing 'radar' :LOL:

As for the size/weight, depends if they're billing it as a pocketable camera I guess.
 
snerkler said:
Maybe. As you know I struggle to get my head around current prices of stuff ;) As you know, I thought the release price of the RX100 M3 was insane, and it's more reasonable now (although still pricey ;)). So whilst I know things rop after launch I expect things to be priced according to the current market, and the current market is the RX100. Mind you I guess they'll say it's £200 cheaper than the M4 ;)

I think I just need to reset my pricing 'radar' :LOL:
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1:1 macro
PDAF
4K
Touch OLED display
171 AF points
1/2000 or 1/16000
60 fps
Built in 3 stop ND
DF-F1 EVF with 2,359,000-dot, tilting, diopter adjustment and Eye sensor

To me thats a lot of difference for a camera that costs as much as a 2yr old camera.
 
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And of course the most important factor: it also comes in silver....
 
Interesting cameras - will be interested in hearing what these things are really like.
 
twist said:
1:1 macro
PDAF
4K
Touch OLED display
171 AF points
1/2000 or 1/16000
60 fps
Built in 3 stop ND
DF-F1 EVF with 2,359,000-dot, tilting, diopter adjustment and Eye sensor

To me thats a lot of difference for a camera that costs as much as a 2yr old camera.
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TBH on a camera like this I'm not sure PDAF will be of that much use (although is a nice feature) as wouldn't shoot sports etc (might help in low light of course), don't shoot video, AF points nice to have a lot but again not sure I'd use them as wouldn't shoot sports etc with a camera like this. Shutter is 1/1000 not 1/2000 and it doesn't come with the ND filter.
http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/p.../premium-compact/dl24-85-f-1-8-2-8#tech_specs

Based on this I'd probably rather have the G7x-II that has more reach and the 3 stop ND filter for slow shutter effect, and arguably most importantly is more pocketable. Obviously that's just me, and there'll be some that want the 4K and PDAF.
 
snerkler said:
TBH on a camera like this I'm not sure PDAF will be of that much use (although is a nice feature) as wouldn't shoot sports etc (might help in low light of course), don't shoot video, AF points nice to have a lot but again not sure I'd use them as wouldn't shoot sports etc with a camera like this. Shutter is 1/1000 not 1/2000 and it doesn't come with the ND filter.
http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/p.../premium-compact/dl24-85-f-1-8-2-8#tech_specs

Based on this I'd probably rather have the G7x-II that has more reach and the 3 stop ND filter for slow shutter effect, and arguably most importantly is more pocketable. Obviously that's just me, and there'll be some that want the 4K and PDAF.
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Pdaf is always of use. Why do you think every mirror less has it these days. You don't need points just for sport, anything moving and video it helps a lot.

Shutter is 1/1600 as per nikon us and dpreview. Plus 1/16000. Also takes filters. The 18-50 does hence italics.

Yup. We're all different the feature set is fantastic for the money and I'd rather a slightly bigger camera I can hold better than a slippery little thing.
 
twist said:
Pdaf is always of use. Why do you think every mirror less has it these days. You don't need points just for sport, anything moving and video it helps a lot.

Shutter is 1/1600 as per nikon us and dpreview. Plus 1/16000. Also takes filters. The 18-50 does hence italics.

Yup. We're all different the feature set is fantastic for the money and I'd rather a slightly bigger camera I can hold better than a slippery little thing.
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I do find it strange that Nikon US site has the shutter as 1/1600 and Europe site as 1/1000 :confused: Anyway, I've not completely ruled out the 24-85mm as it depends if the IQ is a huge step forward. The Canon's are a bit disappointing at the edges, a bit more so that the Sony (not by much) but I'm not sure if this is more of a case of tiny lenses.

TBH I think my best bet is to buy a cheap used G7x, wait until the G7x-II, DL 24-85mm and TZ100 prices fall and re-evaluate. TBH though, if the RAW shooting speed of the G5x wasn't as ridiculously slow as it is I probably would have gone for a grey one of these already and sacrificed portability for focal length, viewfinder and ergonomics/control.
 
mikew said:
Back to the drawing board,the quoted 500mm is a 185mm with a 2.7 factor applied,nice cameras though.

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Now all Nikon need to do is - "shoe horn" one of these DL sensors, into the nikon Coolpix 900!!!

Prices are lower than i expected, but it makes no difference to me...Ive never bought a new camera in my life!

I wonder how the DL 24-500, would cope with my nikon 1.5 teleconverter attached?
 
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minnnt said:
Yep. I was SERIOUSLY considering selling my 24-70 for this camera. June. FFS.
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not :oops: :$:LOL:
 
minnnt said:
I wasn't considering the J5, but if it has the same sensor as the DL (20.8mp?) then i can see how the files hold up when i try and use Lr to compensate for my lack of photography skill.
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I believe the sensors good. But that's only 1 part of what the DL offers imo. Wouldn't you then be better off with a different 1" like a g7x for size or m43? If you can't wait.
 
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minnnt said:
No because i want 18mm and the nano coating.

Booyackasha.
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Have you seen the zoom switch location? Looks like it'd be really awkward to use. Having used the RX100 and G7x their zoom switch location is OK, but I wouldn't want it further to the edge, talk about awkward finger bending. Unless of course you're expected to use your thumb with these ;)

http://camerasize.com/compact/#555,661,647,663,637,ha,t

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snerkler said:
Have you seen the zoom switch location? Looks like it'd be really awkward to use. Having used the RX100 and G7x their zoom switch location is OK, but I wouldn't want it further to the edge, talk about awkward finger bending. Unless of course you're expected to use your thumb with these ;)

http://camerasize.com/compact/#555,661,647,663,637,ha,t

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Just seen that you can control the focal length via the stepped ring, which will be better than the fiddly zoom lever. Shame the front of the two control rings is for MF only, would be better if you could customise it.

'review' on the DL24-85

http://www.thepassionatephotographe...-8-2-8-and-dl18-50-f1-8-2-8-cameras-are-here/
 
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