Canon 5D or 7D?

twist said:
.... Then realise how much more flexibility you had with a zoom.
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Well if that's how you think why not go for a 18-270mm? :LOL:

Seriously, these f4 zooms will not give you the aperture and creative flexibility or the quality of a high end fast prime and if looking at an APS-C body I personally think that the 17-40mm f4 makes no sense what so ever when you can get a 17-50mm f2.8 that'll offer a wider aperture, a sharper image and probably be more compact and lighter too. Take away the L logo and I don't see what the 17-40mm has to offer on APS-C.
 
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woof woof said:
Well if that's how you think why not go for a 18-270mm? :LOL:

Seriously, these f4 zooms will not give you the aperture and creative flexibility or the quality of a high end fast prime and if looking at an APS-C body I personally think that the 17-40mm f4 makes no sense what so ever when you can get a 17-50mm f2.8 that'll offer a wider aperture, a sharper image and probably be more compact and lighter too. Take away the L logo and I don't see what the 17-40mm has to offer on APS-C.
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You cant compare a superzoom to a decent F4 zoom. I could then say, get a 100mm prime on a APSC sensor and get a full body shot when the subject is in a smaller area.

The 17-40 suggestion was based on him going FF. I would highly recommend the 17-50 on APSC.
 
Shoot Em Up said:
Would a combo of 17-40 and 24-105 be ok since there's only 7mm between the two at the wide end?
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Remmeber though that each mm becomes more significant as you move towards the wide end. On pure numbers it looks like a 2/3rds crossover but really its more like 3/5ths in terms of angle of view.

Alot depends on how you intend to use the lenses aswell, I'v got a 10-22 and a 15-85 for example and I often just take one of them and like to limate changes between the two when I have both.
 
coldrobba said:
If your saying you want to do portraits etc then the 85mm 1.8 is more suitable than the 50mm 1.8 because it gives you a bit more space between you and your candid. On FF you would have to get up real close on the 50mm and puts people a bit on edge.
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He also says he wants to do more holiday/friends stuff, so I think a wide angle faster than f4 will be useful- 28mm/24mm/20mm

Also remember candid is not the only way to shoot- if you look at the work of most portrait masters they get involved with their subject- they interact- they get in close and direct their subject- they make them express emotion.

Shoot Em Up said:
Thanks coldrobba, I'm sure the 24-70 would be very nice but the price tag is too much.

For those interested, I have bought the following:

Canon 5D
Canon 7D
Canon 85mm 1.8
Canon 24-105mm

There may be one or two additions later. Currently I already own:

Canon 40D
Canon 50mm 1.8
Canon 17-55mm

I'll be keeping the kit for a couple of weeks before deciding what to keep. I'll post my thoughts here later. :)
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awesome kit- you'll enjoy that i'm sure! Will be really interesting to hear your opinions on the 7d+ 17-55 vs 5d with 5d+ 24-105
and whether the 7d really does perform better than the 40d
 
mrjames said:
He also says he wants to do more holiday/friends stuff, so I think a wide angle faster than f4 will be useful- 28mm/24mm/20mm

Also remember candid is not the only way to shoot- if you look at the work of most portrait masters they get involved with their subject- they interact- they get in close and direct their subject- they make them express emotion.



awesome kit- you'll enjoy that i'm sure! Will be really interesting to hear your opinions on the 7d+ 17-55 vs 5d with 5d+ 24-105
and whether the 7d really does perform better than the 40d
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The 7D does perform better than the 40D, hands down. I upgraded to the 7D from a 40D because of two main issues, high ISO performance and AF. The 7D knocks the 40D into a cocked hat for these and also allows for much greater cropping whilst keeping a decent image quality. It is a much, much better camera.
 
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