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Yet when you compare the 5ds and 5dsr you couldn't tell which one had a aa filter..I get the feeling the biggest real criticism is the presence of AA filter. This is one big stone in Canon's garden.
Yet when you compare the 5ds and 5dsr you couldn't tell which one had a aa filter..I get the feeling the biggest real criticism is the presence of AA filter. This is one big stone in Canon's garden.
Interesting. Do you have any examples?Yet when you compare the 5ds and 5dsr you couldn't tell which one had a aa filter..
Google. I've seen a few examples and videos about it. Unless you zoom 200percent you won't see a difference in sharpness. At least on those camerasInteresting. Do you have any examples?
Creating large prints is, in effect, zooming (by a large %)........and that's the raison d’être of the 5DSR.Google. I've seen a few examples and videos about it. Unless you zoom 200percent you won't see a difference in sharpness. At least on those cameras
You don't see much of a difference.Creating large prints is, in effect, zooming (by a large %)........and that's the raison d’être of the 5DSR.
The second part of the equation is the lens used. Sure, a 24-105 or 70-200 is not going to cut it but a state of the art prime (think Zeiss Otus) will.
Bob
You're not wrong, but the lack of something as simple as a tilting viewfinder is quite a disappointment for those of us who have used them.
Tilt screen's handy for low level landscapes too.Totally agree. I'm a real estate photographer and use the articulating screen on my 60d rather than use my better performing 5DmkIII. Annoys me that they don't use the tilting screen across the range. Was hoping it might make it to the 5DIV but sadly and predictably not.
If you compare these test charts there is a difference depending on which area you view, but it's sooooo negligible imo that it's not worth worrying about. Technique, light, lens etc etc will have FAR FAR more impact.Yet when you compare the 5ds and 5dsr you couldn't tell which one had a aa filter..
Some people don't like tilting screen as they think it compromises build/robustness so maybe Canon have listened to their customers? I'd personally want a tilt screen though.For the price they're charging imo, it should have tilting screen, better video etc, etc, it's not a two bob upgrade it's a huge amount of money.
Its a crazy amount of money imo, agree the video should be better, especially after what the 5DII did with video.
This ^As I've said loads of times in this thread, it's $99 less than the day one 5d3 price.
You can't compare UK price thanks to Brexit and the very weak pound against the Yen.
DigitalRev's pricing is up - body only is a whopping £100 cheaper than the UK price
For the price they're charging imo, it should have tilting screen, better video etc, etc, it's not a two bob upgrade it's a huge amount of money.
Its a crazy amount of money imo, agree the video should be better, especially after what the 5DII did with video.
Retailers aren't taking advantage at all. You expect them to make no money on what they sell? Retailers need to make around 8% as a whole otherwise overheads etc will see a forced closure. That helps no one. The pice is as it should be. Blame the rates and the government. Brexit vote didn't cause this as we are still in the EU. The Government creating uncertainty and nervous traders of stocks caused the problems we have now not the retailers. They will suffer just as we will. It's too expensive so we don't buy it.'we don't buy it and the retailer makes no money. Retailer goes bust and we can't buy it. Rinse repeat until the markets hit recessions and/or collapse.And? Grey importers will take advantage of the U.K Market too, to push up their profit margins.
5d4 in the States = $3400
5d3 on release in the States = $3499.
Canon are selling this unit per unit for less. It's the retailers that are taking advantage of our poor position in the UK. As the 'majority' voted for this, we can't moan at upcoming price hikes.
Retailers aren't taking advantage at all. You expect them to make no money on what they sell? Retailers need to make around 8% as a whole otherwise overheads etc will see a forced closure. That helps no one. The pice is as it should be. Blame the rates and the government. Brexit vote didn't cause this as we are still in the EU. The Government creating uncertainty and nervous traders of stocks caused the problems we have now not the retailers. They will suffer just as we will. It's too expensive so we don't buy it.'we don't buy it and the retailer makes no money. Retailer goes bust and we can't buy it. Rinse repeat until the markets hit recessions and/or collapse.
With the 5D mk3, about 1% of what I use it for, mostly stills. The SJ7000 (go pro type) and 500D gets used for car videos, the 5D Mk3 gets used for video when I come across things such as walkign into a church in Venice and watching/recording a choir practice.How many here actually do video?
Near 10 years of difference !!tell me - whats worse about the 5D mk4 video than the Mk2?
My point is most us here probably never touch video.With the 5D mk3, about 1% of what I use it for, mostly stills. The SJ7000 (go pro type) and 500D gets used for car videos, the 5D Mk3 gets used for video when I come across things such as walkign into a church in Venice and watching/recording a choir practice.
Sorry, that's balls.
Bexit is DIRECTLY responsible for the poor pound v yen v dollar, that can't be denied, look at the exchange rates. This has happened because of lack of confidence (it matters not that we havn't actually left the EU yet). The pound dived the very next day the vote was passed.
The retailers predicted this is June, to hit prices in August. Guess what, it's happened.
The unaffected markets (US and Japan) are selling this for less than the 5d3 on day one. That's the real unaffected unit by unit price.
It's only responsible in the sense that it caused the rate to inflate from 1.43 to 1.5 in the space of 10days and aisequently drop to its now 1.33. It's realistically dropped 10points and not anywhere near the 17/18 that some spout FACT.
The rates only dropped due to mass selling and trading in the markets as assets left the UK and UK based investments. If the trading and mass selling of UK assests and UK based investments didn't happen where do you think the rates would be? The rate drop was caused by the uncertainty the government provided by not evoking article 50 and for all issues within and the collapsing of government parties including the resignation of the PM. That is what causes rates to drop not because of brexit as we haven't even left yet so still have all the trading powers and legislations and laws we already had! What happened when I woke up the following day and had to deal in dollars? Nothing. Nothing had changed. The principles remained the same as they always will and do. It's only change was the rate drop and the halt to purchasing that followed. Once stocks ran short and new batches came in at higher pricing (or revalued by distribution) did buying start again as life needs to continue.
Brexit is a term to describe a collective event that has roots in all aspects of life surrounding the date, events and ripples in that period and the time running up to and following it.
You say look at the exchange rates. Look at trading surround the rates and the effect they have on the rates and not the rates themselves. It's misunderstandings like that that drives panic and the ripple touches other people and businesses like dominos being toppled.
Retailers may have said that in June and prices would rise in August but that's just common sense. If the vote is to leave investments will likely leave and the strength of the pound would drop. Less capital in the country means less value which means a weaker currency. You get paid £40k a year before brexit you still get paid £40k a year. The only difference is that the £40k is worth less elsewhere now.
The 5D4 is cheaper. It just isn't here and that has nothing to do with the UK voting to leave, it's to do with the collective events surrounding that decision driven by fear, worry, uncertainty and stupidity. Remove subjectivity and replace it with objectivity and we would likely not have half the problems we have now. Subjectivity drives opinion and objectivity drives fact.
No-ones forcing you to buy it. There are models in the range with tilting screens for those that want them.
It's a professional camera, therefore robustness wins out.
As for the money, that's the price point for a pre-release, same as the 5D mk3, probably will be around the £3k just after release - as we've discussed so many times this thread.
Correct, but forgive us when we point out why those opinions are wrongCorrect, nobody is forcing me to buy, but i'm still allowed to express my feelings about it am i not?:
The euro was hit by Brexit too?From over here the price is the same in Swiss francs only difference is lower vat so not sure about currency impacts...
The euro was hit by Brexit too?
However the dollar and yen weren't.
Correct, but forgive us when we point out why those opinions are wrong
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And tilting screens will never get to 'pro' cameras, they create a point of failure, that's not deemed worth the small advantage.
Not wrong in my opinion which is what matters to me.
Okay?
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The 5D4 is cheaper. It just isn't here and that has nothing to do with the UK voting to leave, it's to do with the collective events surrounding that decision driven by fear, worry, uncertainty and stupidity. Remove subjectivity and replace it with objectivity and we would likely not have half the problems we have now. Subjectivity drives opinion and objectivity drives fact.
Which is largely a 'studio' camera, in fact I'd go as far as to say it's the 'enthusiasts' MF DSLR. the pro market was catered for by Hasselblad and C1, it was enthusiasts who screamed out for the PentaxNot so, Phil....the Pentax 645Z has a tilting/articulated LCD.
Bob
Whatever makes you happy.
So what's your usual camera, seeing as all the images on your flicker are with a compact? Do you own a 5D mk3, do you have aspirations of a 5D mk4?