Nikon Z* mirrorless

gilbouk said:
I'm in the same boat as you @Jase I'm coming back after being in camp Canon and Sony. I do miss the Nikon colours and the way photos from the Nikon bodies seem to be more realistic with how they are rendered although this might be a personal opinion. I too left Nikon after I found the AF on the Z6 was holding me back, and the AF capabilities of the R6 were just too tempting for me!! Since then the AF on the A9 has been the best I've had - however the longing to return to Nikon has meant I have my eyes set on a Z9. I intend to use it for weddings, and a gripped body and twin memory slots which are the same has made me desire the z9 more than the z8. Also the longer lasting battery
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The Z9 is a beast of a camera, big and heavy, tried handling one before I got my Z6ii, you will need big muscles for it, especially if you stick a big lens on the end.
 
I remembered the trick I used to use when I had my Z6. I don’t like the exposed sensor during lens changes. I remove the battery with the camera switched on. Shutter closes, CAREFUL lens change. Battery back, trip the shutter. All good. Never caused me any problems.
Works on my Zf
 
trevorbray said:
Yeah but the Sony 50GM f1.2 isn't too shabby. On my Zf

Brody 50gm by Trevor, on Flickr
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Lovely shot btw. I'm considering holding onto my 35mm f/1.4 and 135mm f/1.8 GM and to get the megadap. Would you say that moving subjects are trackable with AF-C when using the megadap? Is it useable for professional applications, or just good enough for casual use?
 
gilbouk said:
Lovely shot btw. I'm considering holding onto my 35mm f/1.4 and 135mm f/1.8 GM and to get the megadap. Would you say that moving subjects are trackable with AF-C when using the megadap? Is it useable for professional applications, or just good enough for casual use?
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It’s an excellent adapter. I’ve only used it once shooting action on my Zf. Had the Sony fit Tamron 28-75 fitted. Not an action camera really. Shot this using the 30FPS option. Jpg only at this setting.

AF track test by -justTrev-
 
trevorbray said:
It’s an excellent adapter. I’ve only used it once shooting action on my Zf. Had the Sony fit Tamron 28-75 fitted. Not an action camera really. Shot this using the 30FPS option. Jpg only at this setting.

AF track test by -justTrev-
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Were most of the frames sharp and in focus, or would you say the choice of usable frames was limited? What a great subject to test it on :)
 
Does anyone have a 1.4 Z teleconverter and use it on the 400mm f4.5 Z lens? Im considering one as it would be great to have the option to go to 560mm. I'd probably use it at f8 and the reviews seem to point towards a similar performance compared to the lens bare at 400mm f4.5. A 600mm f6.3 would be nice but far more expensive for what may be occasion use at present.

I'm quite surprised by the cost of the teleconverter compared to previous f mount teleconverters as they are £569 new. I'm tempted to hire one for a weekend to test one out.
 
dcash29 said:
Trevor, do youtthink the Nikon could be your OM replacement?
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Mate. Unlikely. As much as I’m loving the Zf it’s not an action camera. Keep glancing sideways at Z8 though.
 
The Z8 really isn't that big and it's certainly not heavy, ergonomically it's lovely, am I talking myself into it ? Have I caught @trevorbray GAS ?
 
rob-nikon said:
Does anyone have a 1.4 Z teleconverter and use it on the 400mm f4.5 Z lens? Im considering one as it would be great to have the option to go to 560mm. I'd probably use it at f8 and the reviews seem to point towards a similar performance compared to the lens bare at 400mm f4.5. A 600mm f6.3 would be nice but far more expensive for what may be occasion use at present.

I'm quite surprised by the cost of the teleconverter compared to previous f mount teleconverters as they are £569 new. I'm tempted to hire one for a weekend to test one out.
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Stopping down the bare lens to f5.6 seems to be it's best image quality wise, so stopping down to f8 with the converter is definitely sensible where you have the light. The combo works well for me and the 2x is a lot better than the old F-mount was, but might be too much for some. If Aylesbury is close enough for you, you can always try mine out sometime to get an idea.
 
imattersuk said:
The Z8 really isn't that big and it's certainly not heavy, ergonomically it's lovely, am I talking myself into it ? Have I caught @trevorbray GAS ?
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Teehee, I am trying to convince myself that I dont need a Z8 as the Z9 is good and the Z8 would be duplication. Cant justify it as I am not working for money these days.
 
Unlocker said:
Stopping down the bare lens to f5.6 seems to be it's best image quality wise, so stopping down to f8 with the converter is definitely sensible where you have the light. The combo works well for me and the 2x is a lot better than the old F-mount was, but might be too much for some. If Aylesbury is close enough for you, you can always try mine out sometime to get an idea.
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Thanks for the reply. I'd noticed the sharpness tests in the reviews put f5.6 as the sharpest aperture. Performance with the teleconverter at f8 is similar to the lens bare at f4.5. I'm working on the idea if I'm happy with the bare lens at f4.5 I should be happy with the teleconverter at f8. F8 is usually my go to aperture for birds in flight if there is sufficient light.

Thanks for the offer, I'm not far away (Bedford) but I think I will likely hire one for 3 days and go to somewhere like Bempton Cliffs where there's plenty of opportunity to test the teleconverter out.
 
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gilbouk said:
Were most of the frames sharp and in focus, or would you say the choice of usable frames was limited? What a great subject to test it on :)
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Sorry to be late responding. I’m waiting until I get a bit of time to examine the burst. It’s a long one. I’ll report back.
 
Picked up a copy of the Thypoch Simera 28mm f1.4
Beautifully made and quite heavy. Manual focus only and available in just the Leica M mount. i've used a Voigtlander adapter.
Not a budget lens, tested this morning wide open.
More to come.
Here on the Zf

Thypoch test by Trevor, on Flickr
 
rob-nikon said:
Does anyone have a 1.4 Z teleconverter and use it on the 400mm f4.5 Z lens? Im considering one as it would be great to have the option to go to 560mm. I'd probably use it at f8 and the reviews seem to point towards a similar performance compared to the lens bare at 400mm f4.5. A 600mm f6.3 would be nice but far more expensive for what may be occasion use at present.

I'm quite surprised by the cost of the teleconverter compared to previous f mount teleconverters as they are £569 new. I'm tempted to hire one for a weekend to test one out.
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Hi Rob

A couple of test shots using the combo you mention of interest. I had a play around with my combo of a Robin in the garden yesterday. As you can see from the EXIF, ISO 6400 @f7.1 from looking on my screen I think the combo works well and considering the poor light at the time.

Edit: I was also having a play around with LR Denoise on the photos.

Robin waving goodbye to me :) by Swansea Jack, on Flickr


Robin. by Swansea Jack, on Flickr
 
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Swanseajack said:
Hi Rob

A couple of test shots using the combo you mention of interest. I had a play around with my combo of a Robin in the garden yesterday. As you can see from the EXIF, ISO 6400 @f7.1 from looking on my screen I think the combo works well and considering the poor light at the time.

Edit: I was also having a play around with LR Denoise on the photos.

Robin waving goodbye to me :) by Swansea Jack, on Flickr


Robin. by Swansea Jack, on Flickr
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Beautiful detail for an extended lens!! Would one go for a 500mm pf over the extended 400mm z. I wonder if AF performance is better on the extended z lens
 
gilbouk said:
Beautiful detail for an extended lens!! Would one go for a 500mm pf over the extended 400mm z. I wonder if AF performance is better on the extended z lens
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The 500pf is notably sharper at f/5.6 than the extended 400/4.5 is at f/8. That said, there are a lot of other things that can even the playing field. One should not underestimate how important shorter subject distance is... it can make even a mediocre lens look great.

I'm not saying the extended 400 is mediocre; it's very good and about equal to my 180-600 @ 600mm; but I wouldn't put the 2x on it.

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Sharps said:
Hi Trev, what adapter are you using for the don't lenses and do you have a link, please?
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It’s this one mate. Very good indeed.

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Swanseajack said:
Hi Rob

A couple of test shots using the combo you mention of interest. I had a play around with my combo of a Robin in the garden yesterday. As you can see from the EXIF, ISO 6400 @f7.1 from looking on my screen I think the combo works well and considering the poor light at the time.

Edit: I was also having a play around with LR Denoise on the photos.

Robin waving goodbye to me :) by Swansea Jack, on Flickr


Robin. by Swansea Jack, on Flickr
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Thanks for the examples. I’d be looking at longer subject distances as it would be used for birds in flight.

sk66 said:
The 500pf is notably sharper at f/5.6 than the extended 400/4.5 is at f/8. That said, there are a lot of other things that can even the playing field. One should not underestimate how important shorter subject distance is... it can make even a mediocre lens look great.

I'm not saying the extended 400 is mediocre; it's very good and about equal to my 180-600 @ 600mm; but I wouldn't put the 2x on it.

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I’d gone with the 400 f4.5 due to its light weight, fast aperture and 400mm focal length suits my needs. I agree I’d not think of using the 2x teleconverter but the 1.4x teleconverter is cheaper and lighter to get to 560mm than carrying an additional lens like a 600 f6.3, 180-600 or 500 PF. Not perfect but likely good enough for the amount I’m going to use.

I’d love the 400 f4.5 to have a built in teleconverter like really exotic lenses. That would be perfect and so more functional.
 
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