I think I'd be much happier handling the kit in a shop but that means a day trip out probably by taxis and trains as driving there and parking is just more hassle these days.
Thanks, appreciate the feedbackLove your images in the separate thread, the edit doesn’t work for me as a standalone photo as the car looks like it’s floating.
Is there a reason why. I just tested my 35mm F1.4 and at F1.8 you can set any shutter speed but if you open up beyond that then as you say restricted to 1/16000 which is slower than the A1 I think. I don't have the technical knowledge to understand but you would think that not having to stop down an aperture would make a cameras life easier16000th shutter speed maximum with fast aperture lenses is something of a deal breaker. I'd never trust them either to add beyond that via a FW update given their track record with this
WEX in Leeds and Newcastle are both out of town stores so easy parking - but you have to check ahead as to what they have in stock - when my step-daughter bought her first R6 we effectively drove past WEX Manchester to go to WEX Leeds, as the Leeds store had all the camera bodies she wanted to try (one was in the used section though, but at least she could try it)
Ergonomics are very important, if it doesn't feel right or you don't enjoy using it, this really taints the experince. I feel for you as I have upgraded in the past and not enjoyed using teh upgrade as muchy as I enjoyed using the previous camera. I'm desperately trying not to repeat that mistake again at the moment!
I find I can flip from the A7 to the A7Riii without any issues really. The main difference for me is the joystick for moving the focus point and I also have it set press to focus. So often I'm a bit slower with the A7 for focusing esp with the lens button in use on the A7Riii.
The doors doesn't bother me either way. They are only opened to transfer or for a wired remote very rarely. If anything, with an L bracket, the A7Riii is a bit easier then the hinged A7.
Its not the size of grip I don't like it's the shape of the indent. It forces my middle finger up against what is effectively an end stop and it feels unnatural and uncomfortable for me.
I know the first generation A7's have been critisised for their ergonomics but the A7 just fitted my hand perfectly and going from that to the III is a big change because of the shape of the indent in the grip and I really didn't expect this.
I wasn't going to reply because I am going to sound a like a broken record.... a7C series is the closest you'll get to original A7 despite being RF style
I know because I have owned and used pretty much every generation of A7 cameras.
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I understand there are other things you don't like but you can workaround them but you cannot workaround a physical grip or physical size of the body
anyway I have said my bit, won't bring it up again I promise
I know we're all different but just out of interest... Which is the most comfortable to hold and use for you?
Is there a reason why. I just tested my 35mm F1.4 and at F1.8 you can set any shutter speed but if you open up beyond that then as you say restricted to 1/16000 which is slower than the A1 I think. I don't have the technical knowledge to understand but you would think that not having to stop down an aperture would make a cameras life easier
If you want the faster shutter speeds what about using an A1 in mRAW and having 21mp images?As far as I'm aware you can only shoot at a maximum of 1/16000 when shooting faster than f/1.8. I shoot all day long at weddings wide open and never stop down where possible. I regularly find even 1/8000th is over exposed on bright days at ISO 100, so a base 250 would definitely result in needing more than 1/16000th at times
That said, I'm probably still gonna get one as I've owned an A1 and definitely don't want 60+ MP with the R5
Not sure the A9iii would offer any great advantage over the A1 for weddings. It definitely picks up subjects earlier and smaller in teh frame with eye AF but that isn't usually an issue with weddings.As far as I'm aware you can only shoot at a maximum of 1/16000 when shooting faster than f/1.8. I shoot all day long at weddings wide open and never stop down where possible. I regularly find even 1/8000th is over exposed on bright days at ISO 100, so a base 250 would definitely result in needing more than 1/16000th at times
That said, I'm probably still gonna get one as I've owned an A1 and definitely don't want 60+ MP with the R5
A7c with the supplied base/grip, is the comfiest camera I've ever heald.I wasn't going to reply because I am going to sound a like a broken record.... a7C series is the closest you'll get to original A7 despite being RF style
I know because I have owned and used pretty much every generation of A7 cameras and like you I am one of the few people that just liked the original A7 (and yes a lot of it feels backwards to me also)
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I understand there are other things you don't like but you can workaround them but you cannot workaround a physical grip or physical size of the body
anyway I have said my bit, won't bring it up again I promise
A7c with the supplied base/grip, is the comfiest camera I've ever heald.
It sounds like you have already decided. If that's the case then just pop it back in the box & return it.
I wouldn't have wasted my time setting it up if not trying to keep it.
If it's a new new camera then I wouldn't be happy with that and would likely return it if a rocket blower didn't sort it 100%.Just set up my A7III and took my first few shots. I was disappointed to see 2 spots visible in the evf at f22 and still there but a bit faded at f16, bit more faded at f11 and gone at f8 but this is just looking in the efv. They may still be visible when looking closely at a picture. I ran the cleaning cycle multiple times and they're still there. I don't want to clean a brand new sensor. I rarely go to these extremes so I'll see how I go but this is disappointing.
Is this normal for a new camera?
A question.
I notice there's an anti flicker mode so I've stuck in the fn menu. Is it any good?
If it's a new new camera then I wouldn't be happy with that and would likely return it if a rocket blower didn't sort it 100%.
I have anti flicker set to a function button but never had to use it.
Curiously, I do get @woof woof preference for the feel of the original A7 - it IS nice and small, which isn't a bad thing for film era lenses at all. Personally I quite like the extra buttons and bulk of the A7III too, especially with modern mirrorless lenses, where the original would be too small to balance (& the A7C much worse).
Yeah it's surprisingly goodA7c with the supplied base/grip, is the comfiest camera I've ever heald.
Yeah shame it doesn't match the r5 and as we've said, more fps.Yeah it's surprisingly good
Normally you'd expect it bodge job!
It's a long time since I've bought a new camera so I'm just wondering and in fact I did wonder as I ordered it. I'm going to keep it and try not to look at the sensor for a while until I've done some lens changes or I spot contamination in pictures but sadly they are in the upper part of the frame where sky could be. When needed I'll try a rocket or even the dreaded wet clean. My worry is that if I reject this for having two spots the next may have four. These things can happen and as you may have gathered I tend to spot and highlight every little thing.
I'll give anti flicker a try now that it's time to have lights on and try and remember to test it under different lighting when I get the chance.
Grip aside I can't fault the image quality of this III. It seems to be quite easily visibly better than the A7 at higher ISO's before any processing so that's nice. I don't know if this is because of the different and possibly better chip or if it's just doing some unseen NR in camera. If it matters what makes it better.
I've spotted that there's compressed and uncompressed raws so I've tried them both and with the few shots I've taken I can't see any difference in them so I'll use compressed as I think that's what the A7 took and I was happy.
I’ve never had a new camera with a dirty sensor.It's a long time since I've bought a new camera so I'm just wondering and in fact I did wonder as I ordered it. I'm going to keep it and try not to look at the sensor for a while until I've done some lens changes or I spot contamination in pictures but sadly they are in the upper part of the frame where sky could be. When needed I'll try a rocket or even the dreaded wet clean. My worry is that if I reject this for having two spots the next may have four. These things can happen and as you may have gathered I tend to spot and highlight every little thing.
I'll give anti flicker a try now that it's time to have lights on and try and remember to test it under different lighting when I get the chance.
Grip aside I can't fault the image quality of this III. It seems to be quite easily visibly better than the A7 at higher ISO's before any processing so that's nice. I don't know if this is because of the different and possibly better chip or if it's just doing some unseen NR in camera. If it matters what makes it better.
I've spotted that there's compressed and uncompressed raws so I've tried them both and with the few shots I've taken I can't see any difference in them so I'll use compressed as I think that's what the A7 took and I was happy.
I’ve never had a new camera with a dirty sensor.
In the situations you describe people are usually slow moving and I'll be using slower shutter speeds, so rolling shutter hasn't been a problem for me.