The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

JohnMcL7 said:
I had similar thoughts when I went back to the D750 when needing to use the 70-200mm F2.8 I only had in that mount, I used the camera for a decent amount of sports shooting and had been impressed with the AF performance. However the blackout makes tracking the subject much trickier and now I find the constant 'clack-clack-clack' in burst shooting irritating when I'm used to complete silence.

There's a topic in another part of the forum which has been started by someone suggesting that mirrorless cameras are pointless and simply created to sell more cameras which I very much disagree with. As much as I liked my various DSLRs I've been mainly using mirrorless cameras because of their various advantages. I find it amazing now how quickly and consistently I can get the shots I want.

With regards to your A1 I'm sorry to hear you're still having problems with it and I know it's all the more frustrating when you have an issue that can't seem to be repaired. I've no idea what the internal hardware layout of these cameras are but I know with other electronics that components outwith the mainboard can cause major errors. It would be good to confirm the error still happens at factory default settings as I see you're already considering.
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Mirrorless has been a God send for wildlife photography. I used to get good shots with a dslr but when I went onto mirrorless I noticed the birds didn’t jump and stayed about.
 
This is vaguely Sony as there are Sony's in it and you can use "vintage" lenses on Sony's :D I enjoyed this.

Highlights for me are the Zeiss white flare at 52:35 and the FD warmth caused by the yellowed elements at 1:04:15. This reminded me of the Takumar 50mm f1.4 and Oly 50mm f1.4 I had. I wont miss the Takumar but I miss that Oly already. The Ninja bokeh is interesting too. I've never had a lens which did that.

I think that flare is maybe more suitable to vid as it's momentary and perhaps more natural whereas in a still photograph you're stuck with it as a moment frozen in time. I have a picture taken with a Minolta Rokkor 50mm f1.7 MK2 that I've had for years, I've had multiple goes at it over the years and I still can't get it how I want it to look but in vid I don't think it'd be that much of an issue as it would be fleeting and could look very nice.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuuIXfVjK6E

His love for FD's surprised me a bit as I always saw them as also rans, not as good as the best of the others I had, maybe a bit bland, and with for me unattractive build but he does have higher end FD's whereas all I had was the more consumer end f1.8/1.4-f2.8's.
 
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Lots of Viltrox 28mm f4.5 reviews on the rumor site...

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It's not for me, the lack of a focus rings kills it for me as what are you supposed to do if the AF wont lock on or locks onto the wrong thing and yes that can happen even with modern cameras. I'd rather have a full function lens the size of the mini G's and I'd rather pay mini G prices for the privilege of not wanting to drop kick this lens over a hedge when it wont focus on what I want to be the point of focus.
 
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woof woof said:
Lots of Viltrox 28mm f4.5 reviews on the rumor site...

More reviews of the new Viltrox 28mm f/4.5 pancake autofocus lens | sonyalpharumors

Preorder the super compact 28mm f/4.5 FE lens on Indiegogo (Click here). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5gpXbwT6mY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh8Dqskjjn4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUPwTl12wUY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jasFnF7HROU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8uSJOhPDc4
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It's not for me, the lack of a focus rings kills it for me as what are you supposed to do if the AF wont lock on or locks onto the wrong thing and yes that can happen even with modern cameras. I'd rather have a full function lens the size of the mini G's and I'd rather pay mini G prices for the privilege of not wanting to drop kick this lens over a hedge when it wont focus on what I want to be the point of focus.
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I was going to get one till you advertised the 28-60mm. Overall that felt a much better prospect even though it's a bit bigger.
 
nandbytes said:
I was going to get one till you advertised the 28-60mm. Overall that felt a much better prospect even though it's a bit bigger.
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I thought I could train myself to use it but zooms confuse me :D I'm glad you're happy with it :D
 
ancient_mariner said:
I wouldn't normally suggest you can have too many lenses, but I'm wondering if you could be the exception.
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I think it was in that vid I posted earlier that the guy said he ended up with about 20 vintage lenses. I've just boxed up 20 and sent them off and I still have two biscuit tins full. But I'm not buying any more.
 
I keep fancying the Samyang 135 f1.8 that's in the classifieds, but TBH I barely use anything but the 50 f1.2 these days because almost everything else is a disappointment by comparison.

Having said that, I did dig out the Tamron SP90 macro for my entry in the October round of the DPOTY 'horror', and for an old A mount lens, when stopped down it's good.

A sticky end by Anton Ertl, on Flickr
 
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Yesterday during a portrait shoot I was advised to shoot in B&W to see the lighting effects better, but of course shooting in raw the file isn’t b&w when transferred onto the computer. Is there a way to convert/save the raw as a jpeg in camera as I like the way the jpeg looks on the camera and I’m struggling to get the raw to look the same?
 
snerkler said:
Yesterday during a portrait shoot I was advised to shoot in B&W to see the lighting effects better, but of course shooting in raw the file isn’t b&w when transferred onto the computer. Is there a way to convert/save the raw as a jpeg in camera as I like the way the jpeg looks on the camera and I’m struggling to get the raw to look the same?
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I guess the only way is to shoot RAW & jpeg and use the jpeg files - Much like the Fuji guys with the film simulations/recipies.

tbh I've always struggled a little bit with black & white but the Fuji Acros does give a nice look imo
 
LeeRatters said:
I guess the only way is to shoot RAW & jpeg and use the jpeg files - Much like the Fuji guys with the film simulations/recipies.

tbh I've always struggled a little bit with black & white but the Fuji Acros does give a nice look imo
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Yep, that’s what I’ll do in the future with these shoots, but I just wondered if it could be done ‘after the event’. I know I used to be able to with Nikon
 
LeeRatters said:
Unless there is a 'Sony' B&W profile in LR or something......? I'm not sure tbh But where the drop down is for Adobe Colour, etc etc
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There is but it’s still not quite the same :headbang::LOL:
 
LeeRatters said:
tbh I've always struggled a little bit with black & white but the Fuji Acros does give a nice look imo
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I’ve never been happy with my b&w editing. I have an Acros preset for Sony and it is nice to be fair, but I find it lends itself better to street and landscapes etc. YMMV.
 
snerkler said:
I’ve never been happy with my b&w editing. I have an Acros preset for Sony and it is nice to be fair, but I find it lends itself better to street and landscapes etc. YMMV.
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Yeah, I'm not really much of a black & white person really, sorry.

Not for editing, but I do often have the camera set to it whilst shooting.
 
I dabble and I've even bought a lens because I thought its character would suite B&W, the B&W which is more like what I'd expect to see in a film era album not the overly dark or very contrasty crushed black looks that seems popular today.

One from my last outing.

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And one which I couldn't have taken when I used film because I didn't have a lens with this wide an aperture. Same lens as above.

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@snerkler Toby. Have you tried Sony Imaging Edge ? Could be that the change of picture style will mimic the in camera version.
 
trevorbray said:
@snerkler Toby. Have you tried Sony Imaging Edge ? Could be that the change of picture style will mimic the in camera version.
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Thanks Trev not tried that so will give it a go (y)
 
I got the final quote back for my film era primes and it's a mixed bag. They've stated that quite a few of the lenses have internal dust and that this might affect image quality and I don't agree with that. Just about any lens and particularly an old one is going to have a few specks in it and no, it's not going to affect IQ. None of the lenses were noticeably bad for this, just the usual, IMO. They also stated that one of the lenses has a really stiff focus and needs repair and whilst that may be true it wasn't true when I packed the lenses up and posted them off.

But, despite their criticisms the bottom line is ok. I don't know if I'd use these people again though. In fact I wouldn't.

Once I'd boxed everything up I changed my mind and took one out :D I'm glad I did :D
 
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woof woof said:
I got the final quote back for my film era primes and it's a mixed bag. They've stated that quite a few of the lenses have internal dust and that this might affect image quality and I don't agree with that. Just about any lens and particularly an old one is going to have a few specks in it and no, it's not going to affect IQ. None of the lenses were noticeably bad for this, just the usual, IMO. They also stated that one of the lenses has a really stiff focus and needs repair and whilst that may be true it wasn't true when I packed the lenses up and posted them off.

But, despite their criticisms the bottom line is ok. I don't know if I'd use these people again though. In fact I wouldn't.

Once I'd boxed everything up I changed my mind and took one out :D I'm glad I did :D
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Is it those people I used? From the very top of the UK?
 
woof woof said:
I got the final quote back for my film era primes and it's a mixed bag. They've stated that quite a few of the lenses have internal dust and that this might affect image quality and I don't agree with that. Just about any lens and particularly an old one is going to have a few specks in it and no, it's not going to affect IQ. None of the lenses were noticeably bad for this, just the usual, IMO. They also stated that one of the lenses has a really stiff focus and needs repair and whilst that may be true it wasn't true when I packed the lenses up and posted them off.

But, despite their criticisms the bottom line is ok. I don't know if I'd use these people again though. In fact I wouldn't.

Once I'd boxed everything up I changed my mind and took one out :D I'm glad I did :D
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Who was this Alan?
 
I went to a wildlife park yesterday and took the A7R V and A1, there's no question that the A7R V detects eyes better in animals, surprisingly noticeable difference.
 
LeeRatters said:
Is it those people I used? From the very top of the UK?
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I got a quote from them but as they ruined a lens of mine and sheepishly sent it back without notifying me and without including any paper work at all I went with someone else.

snerkler said:
Who was this Alan?
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West Yorkshire Cameras.

I may have an over inflated opinion of the lenses and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt with the one they say needs repairing but the dust comment is I think stretching reality to breaking point as a few specks of dust will not affect image quality. They're simply too far from the film and they'd need to be either a rock or to exist in great quantity to have any effect at all.

I might accept the quote :D
 
the_accidental said:
It’s funny how in sales ads places always say “expected internal dust that doesn’t affect image quality” isn’t it…
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I'm sure they've nit picked every possible downside and possibly invented a couple to push the price down. Luckily I sold a few here so overall despite the quote being IMO a bit low I'm still making enough to justify selling them plus they did pay the postage and the lenses were mostly just sat in a drawer.

I'll sleep on it and email them back tomorrow.

I went through the lenses I'm keeping yesterday and I am just keeping some for their interest and significance, others are being kept because they only quoted a few £ and I might as well keep them rather than sell them for peanuts.
 
woof woof said:
I got a quote from them but as they ruined a lens of mine and sheepishly sent it back without notifying me and without including any paper work at all I went with someone else.



West Yorkshire Cameras.

I may have an over inflated opinion of the lenses and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt with the one they say needs repairing but the dust comment is I think stretching reality to breaking point as a few specks of dust will not affect image quality. They're simply too far from the film and they'd need to be either a rock or to exist in great quantity to have any effect at all.

I might accept the quote :D
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Do it & be done with it Alan :)
 
LeeRatters said:
Do it & be done with it Alan :)
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It's a bit depressing really... I don't need the money so why am I selling them? But, they're not ornaments and they're not getting used so they really should go. I should really thin out my Sony lenses too as I have too many of them too.
 
Gandalf said:
Hi Allan,

I was looking at the Sigma f1.4 Art lens to fit in with my kit. However, I’m going to pick up the a6700 and want to pair it with a nifty fifty.

How good are the pictures and what’s the auto focus like, or are they manual lenses?
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Very sorry Andy, I missed this. Sorry...

The TTArtisan 50mm f2 is a fully manual lens available in various mounts including Sony. It has no contacts so there is no communication with the body. You use these lenses in Aperture priority or manual mode with "shoot without lens" enabled in the camera.

There's a review here...

phillipreeve.net

Review: TTArtisan 50mm 2.0 - Return of the Nifty Fifty - phillipreeve.net

ContentsIntroductionSample ImagesDisclosureSpecificationsHandling / Build QualityVignettinglight falloffoptical vignettingcolor castSharpnessinfinity (42mp Sony A7rII)portrait distance 1.4 m distance (42mp Sony A7rII)close (0.6 m, 1:8.9, 42mp A7rII)Flare resistanceSun outside frameSun inside...
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My opinion...

Being honest I don't think this lens is as good as many a film era 50mm but one big plus is that it mounts to the camera without an adapter. Overall, for the price I think it's worth it but there are issues...

Significant vignetting which will have you moving the correction slider to the limit or there abouts. Unless you want to live with it.
Significant focus breathing, but this may not bother you.
Mushy corners,
Tint in the vignetting but this may be less of an issue on later bodies, I don't know. It is quite bad on my A7.
Resistance to flare is poor and the effect somewhat extreme. You can fit a lens hood. I have a cheap vented one off ebay. 43mm.

Up sides.
It mounts without an adapter.
It's cheap.
It's sharp enough in the central area.
The bokeh isn't bad.
The loss of contrast, veiling and flare can be played with for effect.

I've posted a lot of pictures in this thread but no doubt they'll be hard to find. They'll be easier to find in this thread...

www.talkphotography.co.uk

Modern or New Manual Lenses.

Hi all. I thought I'd start a thread for users of modern/new manual lenses to share thought and pictures. Years ago I started buying film era lenses and using them on my digital cameras and I've enjoyed using them via dumb adapters but of course there are new manual lenses too. In these...
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On an APS-C camera the mushy corners and heavy vignetting may be reduced but of course it'll look like a 75mm.

I hope that helps and sorry I didn't reply sooner, I just missed your post.
 
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