The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

saltireblue said:
It seems that Sony do not offer this choice, unfortunately...I shot Fuji before migrating to Sony a few months ago and miss having that option.
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I didn’t realise you could do it with Fuji. I must admit I never pay attention to the display icons when I’m shooting, I just look at them when I turn the camera on to make sure my settings are as I want them and then forget about them after that.
 
On zooming with camera controls, some APS-C bodies have zoom controls on them and PZ kit lenses, presumably they do it?

Just noticed as I’ve been looking at picking up an A5100.
 
the_accidental said:
On zooming with camera controls, some APS-C bodies have zoom controls on them and PZ kit lenses, presumably they do it?

Just noticed as I’ve been looking at picking up an A5100.
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I don't think so even though it looks that way although again the manual isn't clear, it suggests to me those zoom controls only enlarge the image but don't operate the PZ lens:

Enlarge images using the W/T (zoom) lever when shooting.

  1. Enlarge images with the W/T (zoom) lever when shooting.
    • Move the W/T (zoom) lever to the T side to zoom in and to the W side to zoom out.
    • When a zoom lens is mounted, you can also zoom by operating that lens. When a motor zoom lens is mounted, move the zoom lever of the zoom lens to enlarge subjects
 
Hmm see I read that as the lever drives the PZ. A youtube review might show it in operation?

If I cave and get a 5100 I’ll test it and let you know…

(They’re the most compact e-mount body that’ll work with the viltrox 28/4.5 so tempted by an extremely pocketable second body…)
 
It specifically says the zoom lever of the zoom lens (the PZ lens has a lever rather than ring for zoom) rather than the one on the camera body. I've not found any examples anywhere of anyone using camera body controls to change the zoom on a PZ lens.
 
It appears you can control the zoom from the camera
www.ikelite.com

POWER ZOOM Your Sony PZ Lens Underwater [VIDEO]

Streamline your underwater housing by ditching the zoom gear. Logan shows you how to set up the rear directional buttons to zoom in and out on your Sony camera with compatible PZ lenses. Watch the video below or scroll down to learn more. If you're shooting with a Sony underwater, chances are...
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Hogboy said:
It appears you can control the zoom from the camera
www.ikelite.com

POWER ZOOM Your Sony PZ Lens Underwater [VIDEO]

Streamline your underwater housing by ditching the zoom gear. Logan shows you how to set up the rear directional buttons to zoom in and out on your Sony camera with compatible PZ lenses. Watch the video below or scroll down to learn more. If you're shooting with a Sony underwater, chances are...
www.ikelite.com www.ikelite.com
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That's what I was looking for thanks, it's good to see it's working with the buttons.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
I don't think so even though it looks that way although again the manual isn't clear, it suggests to me those zoom controls only enlarge the image but don't operate the PZ lens:

Enlarge images using the W/T (zoom) lever when shooting.

  1. Enlarge images with the W/T (zoom) lever when shooting.
    • Move the W/T (zoom) lever to the T side to zoom in and to the W side to zoom out.
    • When a zoom lens is mounted, you can also zoom by operating that lens. When a motor zoom lens is mounted, move the zoom lever of the zoom lens to enlarge subjects
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That reads as though you can (as confirmed by that other post), but it’s really bad wording
 
I hadn't looked at the ZV series but after reading that article I've been having a closer look at the ZV-E10 and it feels like it's exactly what I'm looking for, it can definitely use the zoom ring on the camera for the PZ lens:

Sony ZV-E10 Review | Photography Blog

Expert review of the Sony ZV-E10 mirrorless vlogging camera with full-size sample photos and videos.
www.photographyblog.com www.photographyblog.com

The ZV-E10 even has a built-in zoom lever which encircles the shutter button. Although it only works with Sony's Power Zoom lenses, it's still quite a handy feature to have on such a video-centric camera, providing an alternative to using the zoom ring on the lens itself.
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The smaller size without the viewfinder suits my use and I'm not bothered about the lack of controls since I'd just be shooting it in auto.

I noticed something of interest in relation to the previous comments about the interface not rotating (if I'm understanding correctly) on the ZV-E10 II:

The ZV-E10 II is the first Sony to rotate its interface display when you rotate the camera, to make vertical video capture easier.
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Today I was shooting footy and had to shoot jpeg as they wanted SOOC photos sent during the match. I don’t like doing this as I’m not a fan of Sony colour profiles, is there a way you can change hues and stuff in camera for individual colours or is it just global saturation, contrast etc?

On a very strange note I found that wearing a hi viz vest plays havoc with the eye sensor. I thought my A7RV was broken at first as every time I turned the camera into portrait orientation it would switch to the EVF even if no object was close to the eye sensor. I cleaned the eye sensor, checked the LCD screen was put away properly, took the battery out and then reinserted it but it didn’t help. I then used the A1 and whilst it didn’t do it every time it occasionally swapped to the EVF. I’m not sure why I thought of it but I wondered if the fluorescent yellow of the vest had something to do with it, and sure enough when I took it off the cameras worked fine.

It’s very puzzling, especially as it’s only when I’m holding the camera into the portrait orientation. Most odd :thinking:
 
snerkler said:
Today I was shooting footy and had to shoot jpeg as they wanted SOOC photos sent during the match. I don’t like doing this as I’m not a fan of Sony colour profiles, is there a way you can change hues and stuff in camera for individual colours or is it just global saturation, contrast etc?

On a very strange note I found that wearing a hi viz vest plays havoc with the eye sensor. I thought my A7RV was broken at first as every time I turned the camera into portrait orientation it would switch to the EVF even if no object was close to the eye sensor. I cleaned the eye sensor, checked the LCD screen was put away properly, took the battery out and then reinserted it but it didn’t help. I then used the A1 and whilst it didn’t do it every time it occasionally swapped to the EVF. I’m not sure why I thought of it but I wondered if the fluorescent yellow of the vest had something to do with it, and sure enough when I took it off the cameras worked fine.

It’s very puzzling, especially as it’s only when I’m holding the camera into the portrait orientation. Most odd :thinking:
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Two things..... I don't think the Sony offers the jpeg stuff that Fuji does. I think it's just the profile stuff.....

And, funny you should mention the high viz - I was shooting sunrise earlier this year & was right on a country road on a bend, so I grabbed a high viz work jacket that was just in the boot of the car. I thought the camera had an issue as it kept doing the same with the screen/EVF. That was orange high viz btw
 
LeeRatters said:
:)

My story isn't anything too exciting..... :ROFLMAO:

Well, I've always thought I wanted the car I bought, but not under the circumstances. I've had my silver 2010 '10' plate Focus for over 7 years, it belonged to the dad of my best mate [since school] who sadly passed away from cancer in 2017 - now on just over 90,000 miles and pretty much not missed a beat :) I was more than happy to keep it for a few more years tbh. But, recently my stepdad has had his licence taken from him due to an Aortic Aneurysm which is pretty large & they have said they aren't going to operate on due to health & age - he's 81. He also had a 2010 '60' plate Focus, pretty much the same as mine aside from colour..... 31,000 miles on the clock so I couldn't really turn it down. Just as I said, I would have preferred it in 3-4 years time when he decided not to drive by his own decision :( He is pretty gutted & depressed about it really - cars weren't just cars in his life. A bit like me & some of us, he owned lots & lots of cars over the years. Engine swaps & built kit cars etc in his more younger years. He drove funeral cars for the Co-Op & was a driving instructor all through the 80-90's. I engine swapped my first Escort with him, after we rebuilt the engine together, when I was 18/19 - taught me at the time how to do ignition timing, set the points, valve clearances, adjust brakes etc etc and it's due to him how I am now with regard to mechanics. The Escort I have now was his initially.

On a more positive note, my mum has bought a Nissan Micra auto & started driving again. She passed her test around 40 years ago but hasn't driven for maybe 30 years or so! My stepdad was her instructor, that was how they met :) She seems to be doing okay though on todays hectic roads for the local, short journey's they do.

Anyway, sorry for the long chat...... :)

I'll take a photo of the 'new' Focus when it's had a good clean. Or maybe I'll just Photoshop the colour of the old one.... ;) :ROFLMAO:
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^^ You might remember that post? ^^

I know it's Fuji in a Sony thread, but here she is :)


*** by Lee, on Flickr
 
LeeRatters said:
Two things..... I don't think the Sony offers the jpeg stuff that Fuji does. I think it's just the profile stuff.....

And, funny you should mention the high viz - I was shooting sunrise earlier this year & was right on a country road on a bend, so I grabbed a high viz work jacket that was just in the boot of the car. I thought the camera had an issue as it kept doing the same with the screen/EVF. That was orange high viz btw
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Thanks, I didn’t think it could be done but thought I’d ask in case I missed it. Very odd re the high viz jackets :LOL:
 
The evf hi viz issue, it’ll likely be how IR reflective the vests are, distance sensors like in a camera are normally IR.

Higher reflectivity will mess with their distance threshold. Might experiment later, I have some retro reflective tape that’s bright in IR (and an IR camera that would see the sensor working).
 
I wonder if Sony will ever make a camera that you can see what you’re doing at night? Like light up buttons. Working a bit in the dark makes everything a right hassle.
 
I’m not sure there’s any need for that? If you’re familiar with the camera you can operate by touch, and if you can’t - you can do everything on the screen as well.
 
the_accidental said:
The evf hi viz issue, it’ll likely be how IR reflective the vests are, distance sensors like in a camera are normally IR.

Higher reflectivity will mess with their distance threshold. Might experiment later, I have some retro reflective tape that’s bright in IR (and an IR camera that would see the sensor working).
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I could understand it more if it was all the time, but just being effected when the camera is in the portrait position is a bit odd.
T_J_G said:
I wonder if Sony will ever make a camera that you can see what you’re doing at night? Like light up buttons. Working a bit in the dark makes everything a right hassle.
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That would be nice, had that on one of the Nikons, the D850 I think. If it drains too much battery then why not just make the button labels glow in the dark?
 
just being effected when the camera is in the portrait position is a bit odd.
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They typically use LED-style illuminators for those sorts of sensor, which emit polarised light by their nature. Reflectives will polarise the light in a particular direction, so the test I'd hypothesise would work would be when you get the issue, rotate the jacket 90 degrees and see if it still happens - I suspect not.

Not very practical to wear the jacket sideways, but it would answer the scientific question :)
 
the_accidental said:
They typically use LED-style illuminators for those sorts of sensor, which emit polarised light by their nature. Reflectives will polarise the light in a particular direction, so the test I'd hypothesise would work would be when you get the issue, rotate the jacket 90 degrees and see if it still happens - I suspect not.

Not very practical to wear the jacket sideways, but it would answer the scientific question :)
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That makes sense,…. until I tried rotating the camera into the portrait orientation but the other way around and that behaved normally :thinking:
 
I’ve been looking into Sony colours and it appears that you can change hues etc using the picture profiles (different to the creative look where you can choose standard, monochrome etc). Picture profile is primarily for video but it says it can be used for stills too, has anyone tried this?
 
f/2.8 said:
Jesus those are awful
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LeeRatters said:
And the names aren't really relevant to the film stocks either.
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Yep pretty bad, but it shows that you can very much change the Sony jpegs to suit so it's definitely something I'm going to delve into and see if I can get something decent SOOC.
 
Bungieben said:
For the sake of getting out shouldn't have bothered, raining again and the viewing area's are totally crap
Donington Tegiwa Rally 01-12-2024-1 by Ben Cheneler, on Flickr
Donington Tegiwa Rally 01-12-2024-3 by Ben Cheneler, on Flickr
Donington Tegiwa Rally 01-12-2024-4 by Ben Cheneler, on Flickr
Donington Tegiwa Rally 01-12-2024-7 by Ben Cheneler, on Flickr
Donington Tegiwa Rally 01-12-2024-5 by Ben Cheneler, on Flickr
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Nice. Miss going to Combe for car stuff. My mate was up there today though. Car number 9, Mk2 Escort.
 
snerkler said:
Yep pretty bad, but it shows that you can very much change the Sony jpegs to suit so it's definitely something I'm going to delve into and see if I can get something decent SOOC.
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Wasn’t this because you were shooting football? Why would you want a filmic look for football?
 
f/2.8 said:
Wasn’t this because you were shooting football? Why would you want a filmic look for football?
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Are you not reading my posts? ;) I’m not wanting a film look, I was just showing that jpegs can be altered to suit as previously I didn’t think it was possible barring simple saturation, contrast etc changes (y)
 
Good evening...

I've posted in the video section a Sony a7 iii video file format question, anyone in this thread able to help? (please reply in the other thread)

www.talkphotography.co.uk

Sony a7 iii 4k Video Editing - XAVC Codec

I'm sure someone must have come across this, it seems the only 4k file format/codec option when videoing 4k on the Sony a7 iii is to use the XAVC format, however this seems to be a proprietary Sony format (trying to bring the footage into After Effects) Reading this document...
www.talkphotography.co.uk www.talkphotography.co.uk

Thanks
 
I've had a play with colour profiles today, unfortunately you still can't change hues individually (there are hue changes but it affects all colours) and I can't get the SOOC jpegs to match my go to raw develop preset which I think gives true life like colours.

So far this is the best I've come up with, but I can't get rid of that kind of 'green hue' that's always plagued Sony's (IMO)

RAW left SOOC JPEG right (it's more obvious on my computer)

Screenshot 2024-12-02 at 15.30.21 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

I can almost get the JPEGS to match if I process in LR

RAW left Processed JPEG right.

Screenshot 2024-12-02 at 15.31.19 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

And here for comparison is the SOOC JPEG left and processed jpeg right.

Screenshot 2024-12-02 at 15.31.43 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr


I'll keep trying to see if I can get the hues as I like them.
 
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