E-Cigarettes

As I understand it, it sounds like it could be a nicotine over-dose to me?
If you were only a very light smoker anyway, do they have a high nicotine content?
 
Cobra said:
As I understand it, it sounds like it could be a nicotine over-dose to me?
If you were only a very light smoker anyway, do they have a high nicotine content?
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Being a cheap cig-a-like, it could also be faulty or have cheap e liquid with unknown ingredients. I've seen a warning somewhere about some of the cig-a-likes from China being suspect.
 
More likely to be nicotine overdose. Nothing really to worry about as nicotine gets out of your system quickly.

It is a problem with the cig a likes with they're weak taste and poor vapour making your draw more and more often, a proper unit will sort that :)
 
Hmm, I usually use rechargeable e-cigs with cartridges, and even if I use it a lot, eg when highly stressed as I am am right now, the only side effect I get is a dry mouth.
However, I was away and ran out of cartridges and bought a 10 motives disposable e-cig, and it was incredibly hard to get any kind of hit from it - so I think the brand might just be a bit duff, Peter
 
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Any one getting any side effects using these?I can only link them to these.

I bought another cheap garage one the other day instead of a pack of smokes.(cant afford the outlay for a proper one right now) its a 10 motives rechargeable.

Used it for half a day the other day and found I was getting light headed/nauseous and felt very tired, stopped using it and went back to the smokes for two days and felt fine.

Been using it again today and have been getting the same nauseous and tiredness again.

Can you over use these? I find that the vapour doesn't seem enough so find myself taking big or double draws to get the feeling of smoke(the exhale doesnt seem to have any smoke/vapour)
Im only smoking about 5/6 cigs a day but find myself using this more it seems anyway.

I did read that they make you very dehydrated as well.
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What strength is it? It sounds like you're getting too much Nic. The Smoko cig-alikes I got for review did the same to me, but I was puffing away like a train for a couple of hours, doing take after take for a video.
 
pmac said:
Any one getting any side effects using these?I can only link them to these.

I bought another cheap garage one the other day instead of a pack of smokes.(cant afford the outlay for a proper one right now) its a 10 motives rechargeable.

Used it for half a day the other day and found I was getting light headed/nauseous and felt very tired, stopped using it and went back to the smokes for two days and felt fine.

Been using it again today and have been getting the same nauseous and tiredness again.

Can you over use these? I find that the vapour doesn't seem enough so find myself taking big or double draws to get the feeling of smoke(the exhale doesnt seem to have any smoke/vapour)
Im only smoking about 5/6 cigs a day but find myself using this more it seems anyway.

I did read that they make you very dehydrated as well.
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you can get a one battery/one cartomiser ego-t for as little as £8 if you have a good search around, just need juice then. Not much more expensive than a couple of packs of fags that way. If you dont mind waiting for delivery from china try fasttech for hardware stuff, its where alot of the uk suppliers buy their bulk stock from anyway


EDIT: after a short (2minute) search something like this; http://www.fasttech.com/products/14...vod-2-in-1-usb-rechargeable-900mah-electronic would make a good starting point for you, especially as you smoke so little. I would suggest trying a fairly low nicotine strength to begin with too, around 11/12mg
 
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Well, its finally here 4 days after placing the order (y)
So far, I am impressed, the one I ordered, was THIS ONE
Not that I am a tight git or anything, but I just went for the free 1st class postage,
and they sent it recorded, (which is a couple of quid extra) FOC!
The picture just shows a cardboard box, this turned up with a hard case which again,
is a Fiver if bought separately.

One of the batteries is on charge, so can't wait to try it out.
I just hope their product is as good as their "service" :)
 
Thanks its a 16mg cartridge in them. I would say im not even using it that much.

Doing a google search does show that it does effect some people this way. Also read that people can be allergic to the PG solution aswell. Ive used one of these before but was only taking a few hits at a time as it was when using patches and was realy only for when i had a bad craving. The disposable one lasted me 3/4 weeks nearly.

Not sure whether to stick with it or stop using it to be honest.
 
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You can get e-liquid without PG. Or without nicotine, even. A recent study showed even zero nic ecigs helped smokers quit (see Ricardo Palloso).
 
Diversion technique certainly helps give up. Unfortunately, 20 or so years ago (when I gave up last time!), there were few aids available apart from gum (which should IMO be banned as a substance...) so I started having a sweet or a breadstick instead of a ciggy. This does have the unfortunate effect of providing empty calories and my weight went up and my teeth suffered! These days, I use carrot sticks instead - tastier and less harmful.
 
I picked up this kit at the local boot sale on Sunday for £34 it came with the mains charger and about 20ml of liquid.
Have also ordered some more flavours from go4smoke.

Just went to the airport to pick up my stepfather who walked out of Edinburgh airport vaping a very similar kit.
 
Well that's the first 24hrs without smoking and i've had to deal with al sorts of stressful rubbish today that would of had me reaching for plenty of smokes.
I've not used it much to be fair, just to take the edge off the craving and i'm only on 11mg but used to smoke 15-20 roll ups a day.
So far it looks like money well spent, it's nice to use when i need it so i'm impressed.
 
Barrysprout said:
I picked up this kit at the local boot sale on Sunday for £34 it came with the mains charger and about 20ml of liquid.
Have also ordered some more flavours from go4smoke.

Just went to the airport to pick up my stepfather who walked out of Edinburgh airport vaping a very similar kit.
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Cool
Good luck (y)

Neil B said:
Well that's the first 24hrs without smoking and i've had to deal with al sorts of stressful rubbish today that would of had me reaching for plenty of smokes.
I've not used it much to be fair, just to take the edge off the craving and i'm only on 11mg but used to smoke 15-20 roll ups a day.
So far it looks like money well spent, it's nice to use when i need it so i'm impressed.
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Nice one (y)
I've been on mine for about 2 hours so far, and so far so good :D
But of course its early days ;)
 
Cobra said:
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[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Nice one (y)
I've been on mine for about 2 hours so far, and so far so good :D
But of course its early days ;)[/COLOR]
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The ultimate test comes next week, holiday with the Mrs B, is it possible to use two of these at the same time :thinking: :D
 
Neil B said:
The ultimate test comes next week, holiday with the Mrs B, is it possible to use two of these at the same time :thinking: :D
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:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
I don't see why not :D
 
Nod said:
Diversion technique certainly helps give up. Unfortunately, 20 or so years ago (when I gave up last time!), there were few aids available apart from gum (which should IMO be banned as a substance...) so I started having a sweet or a breadstick instead of a ciggy. This does have the unfortunate effect of providing empty calories and my weight went up and my teeth suffered! These days, I use carrot sticks instead - tastier and less harmful.
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The Palloso study (which I can't for the life of me find now) was particularly interesting, as it covered only smoker who had no intention of giving up. They have 3 groups ecigs of various strengths (using now out-of-date cig-alikes). Normally, you'd expect about 2% to actually have given up in a year. The average quit rate was actually around 12%, which is pretty good for such a "tough" group of subjects. IIRC the zero Nic group managed 6-7%, which I found quite astonishing. It suggests, to me, that Nic addiction is only part of the problem.
 
Johnd2000 said:
It suggests, to me, that Nic addiction is only part of the problem.
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I can't argue with that (y)

BTW giving up is easy, I've done it loads of times :D
 
QUICK WARNING


If you've got an EVOD battery. Stop using it. They've been recalled for a fault. Contact your dealer for a replacement.

UPDATE:

Actually, no need to panic. The faulty batch was only sold by one supplier, Heaven Gifts (never heard of them). If in doubt, there's no harm in asking your supplier, but it sounds like a much smaller issue than first announced last night.
 
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That's day 3 done :woot:
I've got a nice little routine now and I'm surprised how little I'm using it.
 
Johnd2000 said:
QUICK WARNING


If you've got an EVOD battery. Stop using it. They've been recalled for a fault. Contact your dealer for a replacement.

UPDATE:

Actually, no need to panic. The faulty batch was only sold by one supplier, Heaven Gifts (never heard of them). If in doubt, there's no harm in asking your supplier, but it sounds like a much smaller issue than first announced last night.
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Probably selling some copies as the real thing seeing as Evods are a good make
 
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Dangermouse1964 said:
Probably selling some copies as the real thing seeing as Evods are a good make
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There was a letter from Kanger themselves about it on UK Vapers. A production run for that supplier. Apparently dangerous. :-0

Still, good to know it was picked up and a recall issued. Suggests the market is working reasonably well with medical regulation. ;-)
 
pmac said:
Going to try and buy a proper one and give it another go
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A good vaporizer is essential if you really want to give up or for that matter, become a permanent vaper. ;)

e-cigs are a revolution! they can help you give up smoking or they can give you a healthier more socially acceptable addiction without actually giving up.

I bought an Odyssey 9 weeks ago with the intention of using it to give up smoking, its been awesome!
I haven't had a cig since the minute it arrived but it hasn't been easy at all, you still have to want to give up.

what it has done for me is to remove the nicotine addiction, I now vape 100% VG with a slight flavour taint such as menthol.
for me now its all about losing the habit of reaching for the e-cig. :bonk:

give it another go, you know it makes sense. ;)
 
It's certainly true that not all ecigs/pv's are equal. I stopped smoking immediately but it then took me a couple of months to find kit and flavours that I could be happy with indefinitely. There's a huge difference between atomiser designs (eg top or bottom coiled, different wicks etc) and even changes of batteries can change the draw and for (some reason I don't really understand) taste.

Ultimately, they may not work for everyone, but its definitely worth trying alternative hardware, flavours and juice types (PG to VG ratios, Nic strengths) before giving up on it. The costs aren't that high. Even if you decide after a few days that its not satisfying, you've still probably saved most of the cost in unsmoked fags.
 
AHILL said:
A good vaporizer is essential if you really want to give up or for that matter, become a permanent vaper. ;)

e-cigs are a revolution! they can help you give up smoking or they can give you a healthier more socially acceptable addiction without actually giving up.

I bought an Odyssey 9 weeks ago with the intention of using it to give up smoking, its been awesome!
I haven't had a cig since the minute it arrived but it hasn't been easy at all, you still have to want to give up.

what it has done for me is to remove the nicotine addiction, I now vape 100% VG with a slight flavour taint such as menthol.
for me now its all about losing the habit of reaching for the e-cig. :bonk:

give it another go, you know it makes sense. ;)
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What carts and batteries are you using in the odyssey? I have one and have tried both of the batteries from tw and they aren't great and the carts they sell I'm sure you can buy cheaper elsewhere.
 
TheNissanMan said:
What carts and batteries are you using in the odyssey? I have one and have tried both of the batteries from tw and they aren't great and the carts they sell I'm sure you can buy cheaper elsewhere.
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All TW stuff is expensive. For that and other reasons id best not go into they are rather unpopular on the forums.

I have heard the odyssey is good though.
 
Johnd2000 said:
It's certainly true that not all ecigs/pv's are equal. I stopped smoking immediately but it then took me a couple of months to find kit and flavours that I could be happy with indefinitely. There's a huge difference between atomiser designs (eg top or bottom coiled, different wicks etc) and even changes of batteries can change the draw and for (some reason I don't really understand) taste.

Ultimately, they may not work for everyone, but its definitely worth trying alternative hardware, flavours and juice types (PG to VG ratios, Nic strengths) before giving up on it. The costs aren't that high. Even if you decide after a few days that its not satisfying, you've still probably saved most of the cost in unsmoked fags.
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It is good and aesthetically stunning but for the price I don't think I would buy another.
 
TheNissanMan said:
What carts and batteries are you using in the odyssey? I have one and have tried both of the batteries from tw and they aren't great and the carts they sell I'm sure you can buy cheaper elsewhere.
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Hi Ryan.

I'm using the single coil cartomizers and the 800 mAh "red" batteries that came with the odyssey.
I get a good day from a battery no problem.
what I have found is that the resistance of the cartomizers varies a lot and performance can be dodgy when over 2.1 ohm

I also have a vape pro variable voltage body which is a bit overkill tbh but it produces lots of wonderful vapour. (y)
they use the 18650 batteries @ 3400 mAh and run upto 6 volt @ 15Amp
 
I've got both the Rex and black batteries and struggle to get a full day with the double coils, do you still buy your carts from tw?
 
Good luck on stopping guys n gals, Cory and I stopped last year and wouldn't go back now. Used to smoke over 30 a day for around 36 years then one Saturday afternoon put the lid on my baccy tin, put it in a draw and that was that - couple of weeks of not sleeping / nightmares / always hungry and cr@p skin and that was that.

Personally I wouldn't go down the electronic smokes / patches / gum route as all your doing is replacing one habit with another, try a different routine - have a weekend away is a good place to start. Can't explain what / why / how we did it, tried on several occasions over the years and always failed, this time we both just 'stopped' we haven't quit we have stopped! it's a mind set and I really do believe that.

Good luck to one and all - just think of that stunning new lens your going to able to afford after less than a year - don't believe me - work it out, it's really quite scary

.DAVID.
 
TheNissanMan said:
I've got both the Rex and black batteries and struggle to get a full day with the double coils, do you still buy your carts from tw?
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yes I get the carts from TW but I use the single coils with "Odyssey SCC" etched on the side.
 
195 days smoke free here :)

I really, honestly never thought I'd get this far. I can't see me ever smoking again, thankfully.

I've been vaping since January and have even cut down a lot on that [though still ordering juices and mods and bits and bos ... think I just like online shopping :D ]

I got a job out of it too. I am now the photographer for an Irish vaping site, next time you order from it it could well be my images you're clicking.

Can't say which site just yet, as they're still working on the revamp, and the images will all be unique to this site. But hey, it's a job for me, and could be ongoing as they get new products that will need shooting.

They put a call out for a vaper who does photography, basically, [much easier, as they don't have to explain the parts I'm shooting, and there are a lot of items as you can imagine] and I was in like a shot.
 
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I stopped reading after I seen "lit up" referring to an e-cig, and the word smoke used in relation also. It's not smoke, it's vapour. The people who write these half-arsed articles should do a lot more research and stop making stories up to make a point. It is harmless vapour that is exhaled. Nicotine gets soaked into the body/bloodstream instantly, nothing comes out bar water vapour - much as they insist against. Many doctors are for e-cig's. They state e-cig's save lives. They stop people smoking. The only people who are really against vaping are the tobaccco giants, and the government who are missing the taxes from sales of tobacco. Now they're trying to bully in on this market, they want to monopolise and tax vaping. When this happens I'll give this up too.
 
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Hi Keith,

Yep, the article isn't one which can be seen as being pro e-cigarette. But it does contain information that i think is important for people (ie it questions the notion that the vapour exhaled is pure water vapour). I believe that a journal like scientificamerican is much less biasa than other sources of information on what can be a rather divisive subject.

And a quote that may interest you:-

Q: Do you agree with the harm reduction people that e-cigarettes are a safer alternative for smokers?

A (Glantz): If smokers switched entirely from conventional cigarettes to e-cigarettes, no one started smoking because of e-cigarettes, and e-cigarettes did not discourage quitting, smokers would be better off.
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So it isn't all doom and gloom!


Good luck to everybody here in beating your habit.
 
Glantz is a well known anti-ecig campaigner. I've seems lots of crap from him. Yes there are trace amounts of harmful stuff in vapour, but they rarely mention that they're at levels way below recommended max daily exposure levels, or that NRTs have exactly the same traces elements. One Prof Farsalinos article noted that the study which identified formaldehyde in ecig vapour actually showed that they produce less formaldehyde than human respiration does naturally.

There were two articles in the Lancet this week. One in favour of medical regulation and one against. The anti-med regs piece (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(13)70124-3/fulltext?_eventId=login) made a lot more sense.

I do feel the tide is beginning to turn. Even tobacco control professionals are starting to recognise that harm reduction offers benefits for the smokers that haven't already stopped (the hard core) and that medical regulation will stifle development of ecig technology. That's from a group who exist on Pharma funding. There's a very good video here: http://j.mp/132kNBU
 
Well it looks like I will need to subscribe to this thread :D. For some strange reason I have not wanted a cigarette since Friday night, considering I have been a relatively heavy smoker like a lot on here, I have not used an alternative and I thought I might be craving one by now :thinking:
 
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