High-end bridge cameras: Sony RX10, Panasonic FZ1000 etc

Bobsyeruncle said:
Excellent shots.
I sold my A9 and 200-600mm lens as it was getting too heavy for me.
I was planning on getting an RX10iv at some point but wasn't certain I'd be pleased with the results.
After viewing your images my mind is made up....I'd definitely be happy.
I'd get a lot more use from it as it's smaller and lighter and I don't need to carry a bag of lenses....
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The RX10 iv is a great camera and more than capable of producing great images, big heavy gear is a distant memory in my mind Bob ;)
 
ajophotog said:
Your stream isn't too shabby either Mike ;) I do have a love for the bridge camera and a falling out of changeble lens cameras. I will see how I get on with the fz2000 before doing anything drastic and selling up all my gear. :D What little of done so far with the fz2000 has been quite an enjoyable experience if im honest.
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Great - be really interested to see what you can do with it :)
 
ajophotog said:
Your stream isn't too shabby either Mike ;) I do have a love for the bridge camera and a falling out of changeble lens cameras. I will see how I get on with the fz2000 before doing anything drastic and selling up all my gear. :D What little of done so far with the fz2000 has been quite an enjoyable experience if im honest.
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Having had all of them, the RX10IV is definitely great however it’s a bit unfriendly in use - that’s but it is amazing. I got rid of mine way back, but ended up getting an FZ2500 which I’m pretty happy with too. Need to use it well, I barley do anything now!
 
stickytape said:
Having had all of them, the RX10IV is definitely great however it’s a bit unfriendly in use - that’s but it is amazing. I got rid of mine way back, but ended up getting an FZ2500 which I’m pretty happy with too. Need to use it well, I barley do anything now!
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I must admit to really enjoying the way the panny fz2000 feels and the layout seems to just fall to hand plus the menu is easy to navigate unlike the sony which I thought was a bit of as nightmare. Just need to get some usage under my belt with it to see how I get on with the final results and edits.
 
Great idea for a capture Alby, and quite amusing.
 
dibbly dobbler said:
Heheh - your efforts are always appreciated! :)
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Mike, I've actually just purchased a second "RX10M4" unit to mount in "Choppy" so I can get maybe some reasonable aerial shots without sacrificing my attention from the controls for more than a few seconds. Having said that its pretty unlikely that I'll bump into anything at around 8000 ft up. And the range from the M4 should cover pretty much everything. :)
 
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G.K.Jnr. said:
Mike, I've actually just purchased a second "RX10M4" unit to mount in "Choppy" so I can get maybe some reasonable aerial shots without sacrificing my attention from the controls for more than a few seconds. Having said that its pretty unlikely that I'll bump into anything at around 8000 ft up. And the range from the M4 should cover pretty much everything. :)
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Excellent- sounds like fun! Look forward to seeing some shots :)
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Excellent shots.
I sold my A9 and 200-600mm lens as it was getting too heavy for me.
I was planning on getting an RX10iv at some point but wasn't certain I'd be pleased with the results.
After viewing your images my mind is made up....I'd definitely be happy.
I'd get a lot more use from it as it's smaller and lighter and I don't need to carry a bag of lenses....
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I don't think you'll regret that Bob, After pump surgery (re-issue job actually) nearly four years ago I was forced to look for a smaller & lighter camera to take about at least until I was properly firing on all cylinders again as they say. So I ended up getting an "RX100M6" and after a very short time I realised that the pic's that could be obtained from it were not too shabby in any way, in actual fact I rather liked them, so as my strength improved I decided (with some help from @dibbly dobbler to go for an "RX10M4" which in my opinion is absolutely "Excellent". I've tried several times since then to drift back onto my Fuji-X units but never really liked using them as much as the speed, performance and convenience as the two RX units.

As some of you may know I had a buddy of mine back home in the USA who makes specialist lenses to order to make me two converter lenses for the "RX10M4", one macro that'll get me down to about twice life size and an ultra wide angle that will get me down to about 15mm (full frame equivalent) before distortion starts to set in. So I then had a camera that is optically excellent and was able to work from about 15mm to 600mm (full frame equivalent) with just one unit and one converter and to do good macro with the other converter which is much, much, lighter and convenient to all I would have to carry around to get the same equivalent from my Fuji-X system. The files are in general every bit as good and just as sharp etc, but obviously its a bit more difficult to limit depth of field and not quite as good in very low light, but for me that's a small price to pay for the convenience etc.

I've recently now given away most of my Fuji-X bodies including the very latest X-T5 as quite honestly I just can't see me using them again except in my studio so I have just retained my X-H1 & lenses. Incidentally the RX10M4 together with the RX100M6 are lighter in weight than just the Fuji 100-400mm lens alone.
 
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ajophotog said:
Trouble with smaller sensor cameras is the output needs a little software help sometimes Mike, I'm sure you could improve it in software but, I do think it looks pretty good as is tbh.
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Cheers - that's it already having been several times through the 'depth of field' special edit in Photoshop Elements! Still looks pretty rough I would say...
 
ajophotog said:
Funny you say that, l also take photos look at them when l get home and think that was a waste of time and revisit them a few days later and see them in a different light.
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This. I’ve often got home and formatted the card before even looking at the results.
 
Very nice wildlife style capture Mike, with some fine detail.
 
Im a bit late to this party!...
Just bought a dirt cheap mint Panny FZ1000 (hardly used, an under 5000 clicks) so a real bargain.
Im no stranger to the FZ range of Bridge Cameras, ive used them extensively for well over a decade now, but always wanted to try the 1inch sensor.
Smashed my FZ300 awhile back(left it on my car roof) made it 7 miles, before a fast roundabout saw it flip over the roof rack an hit the ground hard! So after pushing the limits of the fz300 for 100 000 clicks plus, its time for a new challenge. I shoot close up UK wildlife (mainly Butterflies/Reptiles) so i will always have a Canon 500D/250D close up lens attached. This FZ1000 will be used alongside my MFT setup, so will see how this years Season pans out.
For closed wing butterfly shots, the FZ1000 should do well, but trying to capture open wing shots could be a challenge (as i like to aim for everything as close to, in focus as possible)...this will mean shooting at F/8 for the most part. I will probably shoot at the extended low ISO range of 80 to 100, an also shoot in very good light. Bridge cameras do have their limitations, so ive rarely if ever set beyond ISO 100.
Anyway, time will tell if the Panny FZ1000 is capable of giving me the type of images that i strive for?
 
Testudo Man said:
Im a bit late to this party!...
Just bought a dirt cheap mint Panny FZ1000 (hardly used, an under 5000 clicks) so a real bargain.
Im no stranger to the FZ range of Bridge Cameras, ive used them extensively for well over a decade now, but always wanted to try the 1inch sensor.
Smashed my FZ300 awhile back(left it on my car roof) made it 7 miles, before a fast roundabout saw it flip over the roof rack an hit the ground hard! So after pushing the limits of the fz300 for 100 000 clicks plus, its time for a new challenge. I shoot close up UK wildlife (mainly Butterflies/Reptiles) so i will always have a Canon 500D/250D close up lens attached. This FZ1000 will be used alongside my MFT setup, so will see how this years Season pans out.
For closed wing butterfly shots, the FZ1000 should do well, but trying to capture open wing shots could be a challenge (as i like to aim for everything as close to, in focus as possible)...this will mean shooting at F/8 for the most part. I will probably shoot at the extended low ISO range of 80 to 100, an also shoot in very good light. Bridge cameras do have their limitations, so ive rarely if ever set beyond ISO 100.
Anyway, time will tell if the Panny FZ1000 is capable of giving me the type of images that i strive for?
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Welcome! Looking forward to seeing some shots :)
 
Just read Testudo Man's post (2 up from mine at time of writing) and he says he tries to keep the ISO around 100. I'm still wondering about getting a Sony rx10iv but this worries me as I don't shot in good light a lot of the time, and if I do get a rx10iv it'll be for a big travel trip.
Anyone care to put my mind at rest? Ideally I'd like to try one for a few days but short of buying one used I can't see that happening..
 
stevewestern said:
Just read Testudo Man's post (2 up from mine at time of writing) and he says he tries to keep the ISO around 100. I'm still wondering about getting a Sony rx10iv but this worries me as I don't shot in good light a lot of the time, and if I do get a rx10iv it'll be for a big travel trip.
Anyone care to put my mind at rest? Ideally I'd like to try one for a few days but short of buying one used I can't see that happening..
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If its of any use to you, I quite often snap with my "RX10M4" at "3200 ISO", no not without a little bit of noise but easily remedied in PP. I have very occasionally snapped at 6400 ISO with the M4 which is pushing it a bit but the pic's have still been usable.
 
G.K.Jnr. said:
If its of any use to you, I quite often snap with my "RX10M4" at "3200 ISO", no not without a little bit of noise but easily remedied in PP. I have very occasionally snapped at 6400 ISO with the M4 which is pushing it a bit but the pic's have still been usable.
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Of course it's of use to me, and much appreciated too!
It's a subjective thing obviously and I'm not too obsessed about noise, it's just something that I guess I'll have to try for myself if I can find a store that will let me try one..
 
stevewestern said:
Of course it's of use to me, and much appreciated too!
It's a subjective thing obviously and I'm not too obsessed about noise, it's just something that I guess I'll have to try for myself if I can find a store that will let me try one..
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Steve - my 2p worth: I don't typically go beyong iso1600 and the RX10 is great in many ways but low light performance is not one of them! It won't measure up to a full frame or crop sensor camera in that respect but the images do clean up ok using Topaz or similar. The song thrush I posted up there a bit ^^^ was iso1000 treated in Topaz. If you want to see any test shots or whatever just ask :)
 
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