Nikon Z* mirrorless

Hope your shoulder gets better soon. On the other hand if it doesn't, I could see myself being in the market for your Zf eventually
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lunar22 said:
Hope your shoulder gets better soon. On the other hand if it doesn't, I could see myself being in the market for your Zf eventually
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Well, it's back to square one at the moment. It had been cured, but ... If I had a porter that would improve things, but the dog isn't right keen.And Mrs L just comes out with the most unlady-like comments.
 
I imagine it will improve. i used to have shoulder problems at times when I was younger in particular -- it tended to come and go a bit. I won't speculate what Mrs L has to say on the matter -- it might not be suitable for a family forum....
 
I've been away from digital for a few years now, haven't even used any film gear for a couple either. But I've just picked up a used Z5 and have ordered a new 50 1.8S to go with it, should be with me tomorrow. I'm rather excited about it, the Z system seems like great value for money and the new glass seems to be some of the best available at the moment. I'll try to start sharing some shots when I find my rhythm with it again.
 
I've had a problem with a very reluctant dust bunny that I couldn't shift with a blower and found the Z8 does have a dust shield (I thought it was a Z9 only feature) but it's disabled by default. On reading some discussions the only downsides I've seen are that the camera is slightly slower to start up and there's a bit of noise but neither seems an issue, have any Z8/Z9 owners chosen to leave it disabled on purpose?

I'm also back to debating an ultrawide lens and currently still using a very old F-mount Sigma 12-24mm (the original one) and I'd like something better, I had a look at a second hand Sigma 12-24mm Art for around £500 which seems to be the ideal upgrade but it's quite a hefty size and weight particularly the diameter which I'm concerned would mean I'd end up not using it. I bought a good condition F-mount Nikon 14-24mm but I didn't like the tight zoom rings on it, while it wasn't small it felt a bit more manageable on the Z8.

The next obvious option seems to be the 14-30mm which is a lot smaller and lighter than the F-mount lenses although it's around double the cost and loses the ultrawide 12mm. The reviews seem mixed on it although I'm finding it difficult to get a good idea on it since the same reviewer will say it's not that great but then to consider it instead of the more expensive f2.8 version.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
I've had a problem with a very reluctant dust bunny that I couldn't shift with a blower and found the Z8 does have a dust shield (I thought it was a Z9 only feature) but it's disabled by default. On reading some discussions the only downsides I've seen are that the camera is slightly slower to start up and there's a bit of noise but neither seems an issue, have any Z8/Z9 owners chosen to leave it disabled on purpose?

I'm also back to debating an ultrawide lens and currently still using a very old F-mount Sigma 12-24mm (the original one) and I'd like something better, I had a look at a second hand Sigma 12-24mm Art for around £500 which seems to be the ideal upgrade but it's quite a hefty size and weight particularly the diameter which I'm concerned would mean I'd end up not using it. I bought a good condition F-mount Nikon 14-24mm but I didn't like the tight zoom rings on it, while it wasn't small it felt a bit more manageable on the Z8.

The next obvious option seems to be the 14-30mm which is a lot smaller and lighter than the F-mount lenses although it's around double the cost and loses the ultrawide 12mm. The reviews seem mixed on it although I'm finding it difficult to get a good idea on it since the same reviewer will say it's not that great but then to consider it instead of the more expensive f2.8 version.
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I presume you want a zoom w/a rather than fixed length? I mention it because I have a Viltrox 16mm which I don’t use and may put in Classifieds.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
I've had a problem with a very reluctant dust bunny that I couldn't shift with a blower and found the Z8 does have a dust shield (I thought it was a Z9 only feature) but it's disabled by default. On reading some discussions the only downsides I've seen are that the camera is slightly slower to start up and there's a bit of noise but neither seems an issue, have any Z8/Z9 owners chosen to leave it disabled on purpose?
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It's one of the first things I enabled on my Z8 when I got it and have never turned it off since, and have never had to clean the sensor on either my Z8 or Z9. If it is slower to start up, it's almost imperceptible ?
 
Sootchucker said:
It's one of the first things I enabled on my Z8 when I got it and have never turned it off since, and have never had to clean the sensor on either my Z8 or Z9. If it is slower to start up, it's almost imperceptible ?
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I've enabled it on mine now but just seems odd to have it disabled by default given it does seem to be effective.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
I'm also back to debating an ultrawide lens and currently still using a very old F-mount Sigma 12-24mm (the original one) and I'd like something better, I had a look at a second hand Sigma 12-24mm Art for around £500 which seems to be the ideal upgrade but it's quite a hefty size and weight particularly the diameter which I'm concerned would mean I'd end up not using it. I bought a good condition F-mount Nikon 14-24mm but I didn't like the tight zoom rings on it, while it wasn't small it felt a bit more manageable on the Z8
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As it happens, I'm just reorganising my limited UWA setup as we speak. For my DSLR (a Df), I finally decided on a Tamron 15-30 which goes for very little these days (just over £300 I'm paying) despite being arguably the best wideangle zoom before mirrorless. It's heavy but I'll put up with it -- I'm used to 1.3kg telephotos anyway. I know where you're coming from and also had a Sigma 12-24 mark i I really liked it back in the day even though objectively it wasn't that great. I had also considered the Sigma 12-24 Art but that's almost twice the price of the Tamron and for that camera would prefer a slightly less extreme f/l. Reason being that for my Z6, I've decided to go with the Laowa 10mm f2.8 AF. Finally there is something very wide which is fast, small, light and can focus almost at touching the lens distance so there's also depth of field control despite the f/l. The rule is that my two lens sets must complement each other and additionally that everything for the Df should be inexpensive, and second hand. The Df itself doesn't seem to depreciate in value at all over time -- surely Nikon's only DSLR in that position.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
I've enabled it on mine now but just seems odd to have it disabled by default given it does seem to be effective.
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I'd love to have a camera with the dust shield, although there is the occasional report of some dust getting inside anyway. Shame the Zf doesn't have one but I guess it adds to the cost.
 
lunar22 said:
I'd love to have a camera with the dust shield, although there is the occasional report of some dust getting inside anyway. Shame the Zf doesn't have one but I guess it adds to the cost.
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On my Zf. I remove the battery while the camera is switched on. It closes the shutter. Swap lenses (carefully). Insert battery, fire the shutter. Never had any problems. All good.
 
On a side note, can anyone answer this really annoying question (which I’m sure is a setting I’ve missed but it’s driving me bonkers.)

On my Z9, if I have the switch on the back set to photo and in say shutter priority mode , then flick the switch across to movie mode, it will remember the last program I had set for movies, which in this case is manual [M]. Then when I flick the switch back to photos it goes right back in mode where I last left off. All good.

However, try as I might on my Z8, whatever shooting mode I’m in when in photo mode, say shutter mode again , then flick the switch across to movie mode, it retains the mode. If I then change the shooting mode to say manual [M] then when I’m done go back to photos mode, then it carries the [M] mode back across and not the mode I last had it set at.

Like I say I’m sure it’s a setting I’ve missed but I can’t for the life of me see where ? Can anyone help.
 
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mikeyw said:
I've recently picked up a Z5 to learn the Z system before going in full tilt and i really like it. Coming from the D750 i was concerned the quality might not be there but it certainly is. Only negative i've found against the D750 so far is the high iso is noisier and wouldn't really use above 6400. One thing that really appealed was silent mode as i do a lot of quiet events, however the banding problem is horrible and makes it unusable in the mode in some situations. Is it consistently bad across all Z models or do the high end bodies deal with it better somehow ? It's a weird heavy crop here just to remove event branding taken at f5 / 70mm / 1/160. Any advice on how to minimize it greatly appreciated. My next body will probably be the Z6ii / z6iii so be perfect if they were better in this area

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I use the Z6ii and banding is VERY annoying, but drop to 1/100th and its gone

Clearly at 1/100th you could have some subject movement, even just on a speaker (hands/mouth even), so for this I usually shoot in burst mode so 3-5 frames on H, so one of them at least is always perfect :)

The Z8/Z9 read their sensors differently so banding isn't an issue for them. If you intend to shoot events indoors a lot, and especially professionally, then I'd suggest the Z8 is your best bet :)
 
wibbly said:
I bloody love the Peak District. If I lived up there I’d never get any work done as I’d be out in it all the time. :ROFLMAO:
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Thats why I took early retirement to move here didn't want to miss those misty days. Had to sacrifice a lot but worth it.
 
Zf + 40mm f/2

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wibbly said:
I bloody love the Peak District. If I lived up there I’d never get any work done as I’d be out in it all the time. :ROFLMAO:
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My only real memory of the Peak District was Kinder Scout where I spent most of the time tortuously trying to make my way through an endless flat bog. There are plenty of bogs in the Scottish Highlands as well, admittedly, and I suspect I haven't yet seen the best of the Peak District.
 
lunar22 said:
My only real memory of the Peak District was Kinder Scout where I spent most of the time tortuously trying to make my way through an endless flat bog. There are plenty of bogs in the Scottish Highlands as well, admittedly, and I suspect I haven't yet seen the best of the Peak District.
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I must admit I’ve only really done Padley Gorge. Maybe we need to get @todders to arrange a TP meeting there to show us around. :ROFLMAO:
 
dcash29 said:
Which small bodied z mountable prime and why?
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I’ve got a couple.
Typoch Simera 28mm f1.4. Lovely rendering. Fab Bokeh

40mm Nikon Z f2. Autofocus decent image quality. Bought is as part of my Zf kit.
 
trevorbray said:
I’ve got a couple.
Typoch Simera 28mm f1.4. Lovely rendering. Fab Bokeh

40mm Nikon Z f2. Autofocus decent image quality. Bought is as part of my Zf kit.
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I can second @trevorbray ’s 40mm f2. Light, cheap, sharp.
 
dcash29 said:
I guess the only small A/F lenses are the 24mm, 26mm, 28mm & 40mm
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I have the 28mm f2.8 & 40mm f2. To be honest, I keep looking at the 35mm & 50mm f1.8 and it appears from almost everything I’ve read there isn’t ‘that’ much difference between the 40mm & 50mm. That’s why as yet, I haven’t gone down the route of 50mm.

I do think you can see a difference in image quality between the 28mm & 40mm, but again it’s not that significant. The 40mm does seem a bit of a sleeper, with an unfair stigma of it’s quality based on the stellar S prime lenses.
 
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