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what can you judge it on then?Going back to my design / manufacturing / product approval days and trying not to generalise one thing I will say is that you can't necessarily judge either quality or reliability from the badge on the box or even be sure who actually designed and / or made it.
I've seen some utter s***t with a supposed quality name on it and of course conversely I've seen some good stuff with a name you'd associate with lower end products.
Oh, and IMO Made In Xxxx means nothing.
the likes of canon L and Nikon lenses are all top quality. how have they been judged then?
Also i cant find much info on bad copies of batis lenses and it has been out for nearly a year as i stated.
If we shouldnt believe the internet, why should i believe u lot then lol?